2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Juzh wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 13:25
dialtone wrote:
08 Jul 2023, 17:48
Here we go the telemetry:

LEC v VER

https://i.imgur.com/lB2zN9w.jpeg

* Very surprising Ferrari gaining time in Maggotts and Becketts despite a smaller rear wing, although Chapel was worse for LEC.
Why is it surprising? These two corners are flat out and ferrari just carries their higher speed with the lower wing. Higher wing on RB is working in chapel. To me it all seems very logical.

What isn't logical is how leclerc thinks he was in a fight for pole. He wasn't. He lost at most 2,5 tenths in stowe, and that would mean matching verstappen's pace trough there which he wasn't ever gonna do with lower wing. A tenth was maybe gone in brooklands but Verstappen also didn't hit the apex there and didn't have the perfect lap if we're doing it in this hypothetical way.
P2 was reasonable, pole not so much. Required perfect lap from Lec and mistakes from Verstappen.
Leclerc in the post qualifying media pen interview mentioned first row was possible. He obviously went back and looked at the time he lost, in the car he probably thought he lost more.

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Compared to his FP3 run, Leclerc lost about 0.25s in Q3 lap from Stowe to the finish line. Sainz and Hamilton did not lose time compared to FP3 there, so with those track conditions Leclerc had a P2 time in the pocket. Pole was at least a tenth away, by the looks of it.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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F1NAC
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Another deg issues? Pitting before Russell on used softs?

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Ohhh we’re slow. Damn. I guess we did expect Silverstone to be a weak track for us, I think every time we all just HOPE we’ll go better than expected so I’m still disappointed.

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Pace on hards is crap

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Horrible luck with that safety car. Really couldn’t be worse.

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F1NAC
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Shockingly bad result. Disaster

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Ay yi yi…this car on the C1’s was NOWHERE.

EDIT: Looks like they finally started working about 25 laps into the stint. Sheesh…

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Was expecting much more. That was a bit of a disappointment.

It was a weird race all in all with many cars bunched up, seemingly equally fast and almost no tyre wear. But Ferrari stood out with worse deg than others.

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No grip in slow corners on any of these tyres.
How come?

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So nothing works on the car in race trim. Neither softs nor hards. What strategy was that ?

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JPower wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 17:23
Ay yi yi…this car on the C1’s was NOWHERE.

EDIT: Looks like they finally started working about 25 laps into the stint. Sheesh…
Harder compounds are often Ferrari's achilles heel, but the strategists won't dare go in a different direction.
SC non-witstanding, soft-medium was the right strategy today.

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LM10 wrote:
09 Jul 2023, 17:31
Was expecting much more. That was a bit of a disappointment.

It was a weird race all in all with many cars bunched up, seemingly equally fast and almost no tyre wear. But Ferrari stood out with worse deg than others.
Was it worse ? LEC was matching Russel or even better when they pit him. Never understood why ?

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Unless they update that suspension the tyre deg issue is ever existing.

At times i just laugh at all this. Suspension-tyre deg is the base issue because of which they cant put in an aggressive strategy, its also the major reason a drive like Charles driving a fooking ferrari cant pass the likes of Hass,Alpine,Williams. Its been more than 2 yrs and these jokers will change everything on that car from beemwing to mirrors and horn but not the suspension.

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Dreadful strategy call from Ferrari, Leclerc would've finished ahead of one of the Merc at least.
Leclerc was keeping Russell behind, and he had harder compound... Why on earth stop him ? (i.e Vasseur said they didn't push enough the tires)