Ferrari SF23

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vorticism wrote:
08 Jul 2023, 17:40
If they are running a skate wing hybrid, I think part of the skate can be seen here:

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... -23-1.webp

Something hangs below the floor, and this discontinuity is not seen from above in other photos (correct me if I'm wrong).
Here too?

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gordonthegun wrote:
08 Jul 2023, 19:31
Here too?
I think so. The wing part itself is smooth and continuous in that area, so this must be the skate part.

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Definitely a new channel design since Austria, considerably higher throat than launch spec by the looks of it (well, the inverted surface :lol: )



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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 11:11
Definitely a new channel design since Austria, considerably higher throat than launch spec by the looks of it (well, the inverted surface :lol: )



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1d9MIKXsAA ... me=900x900
Does the higher throat indicate an even more extreme approach towards the classical Venturi floor?

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So new floor confirmed?
This is what they needed for months.
For Sure!!

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ringo wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 16:34
So new floor confirmed?
This is what they needed for months.
this was part of the Austria update

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largest vent size this season?

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expected 30C ambient and high 40s track temp. It will be hot.

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Maybe caution after the engine fire at Austria?

SF23 will perform well at Hungary so should have margin to improve cooling

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LM10 wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 16:07
Does the higher throat indicate an even more extreme approach towards the classical Venturi floor?
In my view the opposite, it would indicate a step towards a high-throat-low-ride-height approach. They had this approach last year as well, F1-75 never had an extremely low throat-section like the early W13 had and I expected they were 110% certain they can make it work with going lower this year. Results proved otherwise...

CaribouBread wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 17:07
Using the biggest Monaco RW+BW set suggests they now have better balance options than they did in Barcelona.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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New profile of FW flaps:

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This seems different too:

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Large cooling slots:

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Vanja #66 wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 18:42
LM10 wrote:
20 Jul 2023, 16:07
Does the higher throat indicate an even more extreme approach towards the classical Venturi floor?
In my view the opposite, it would indicate a step towards a high-throat-low-ride-height approach. They had this approach last year as well, F1-75 never had an extremely low throat-section like the early W13 had and I expected they were 110% certain they can make it work with going lower this year. Results proved otherwise...
Oh right, now I can remember that the RB19 has had a high throat from the beginning and thus giving up on classic Venturi-generated floor downforce.

Is Ferrari now somewhere between RB19 and W14 in terms of throat height? I’d be kind of upset to see Ferrari completely go the RBR way with their floor concept, proving that even with suspension work they would not be able to make their design work (for next season).