2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 21 - 23

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dialtone wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:57
Juzh wrote:Verstappen with solid 2 laps on the board after 50 minutes of running. Session well spent.
Do you know what’s going on?
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dialtone wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:57
Juzh wrote:Verstappen with solid 2 laps on the board after 50 minutes of running. Session well spent.
Do you know what’s going on?
Took a while before coming out to save sets (number of which are reduced) and then on the first outing decided balance was too bad already and should do adjustments in garage immediately so boxed. Then second outing battery charging was giving some lag (from radio) so they decided to abandon more flying laps and move into long runs

I think that's why?

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Watch out for Norris again!!!

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Still too early to paint a picture just yet any idea on race pace ?

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Juzh wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:55
Verstappen with solid 2 laps on the board after 50 minutes of running. Session well spent.
dialtone wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:57
Juzh wrote:Verstappen with solid 2 laps on the board after 50 minutes of running. Session well spent.
Do you know what’s going on?
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21 Jul 2023, 18:02
dialtone wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:57
Juzh wrote:Verstappen with solid 2 laps on the board after 50 minutes of running. Session well spent.
Do you know what’s going on?
Took a while before coming out to save sets (number of which are reduced) and then on the first outing decided balance was too bad already and should do adjustments in garage immediately so boxed. Then second outing battery charging was giving some lag (from radio) so they decided to abandon more flying laps and move into long runs

I think that's why?

I don't think it was any of this or that there was any drama at all. Max was happy with the car the whole time. He clearly had a lot of fuel in the car for his soft tire runs. He only complained that the tires were screwed on the second hot lap and that he couldn't go faster so they boxed him and prepared the car for the long runs. He never asked for a wing adjustment either. Went back out and did a 6 lap long run on the softs. Did not sound worried about anything all and the car looked good the entire time. Little to no understeer or oversteer. Lapping 23.4, 23.3, 23.2, 23.1 in that long run. Very competitive.

the tire situation just means they can't spend the whole session putting on new tires.
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:14
the tire situation just means they can't spend the whole session putting on new tires.
We are going to see 30 minute sessions from 2024? Less tyres means teams would be frugal in using them and leave practice time on the table which would then encourage FIA to reduce the session length.

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most teams just used some of tomorrow's tyres instead. But yeah, Verstappen and Mercedes didn't.

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Max Verstappen after FP1 and FP2:

"Difficult to say anything about upgrades after this day, we will check the data later to see if the correlation is correct. It was mainly about saving tires with an eye on the format of qualifying. We have to see how we can improve that, because I don't think this is how it should be."


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Willy wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:19
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:14
the tire situation just means they can't spend the whole session putting on new tires.
We are going to see 30 minute sessions from 2024? Less tyres means teams would be frugal in using them and leave practice time on the table which would then encourage FIA to reduce the session length.
Maybe they're eyeing having a sprint format every event - fewer/shorter FP sessions means more time for low attention span races.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 19:16
Willy wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:19
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:14
the tire situation just means they can't spend the whole session putting on new tires.
We are going to see 30 minute sessions from 2024? Less tyres means teams would be frugal in using them and leave practice time on the table which would then encourage FIA to reduce the session length.
Maybe they're eyeing having a sprint format every event - fewer/shorter FP sessions means more time for low attention span races.
At this point, they should have a Sprint race with reverse order to mix things up a little given that these cars can follow closer and overtake more easily.

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Longruns (my calculations):

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go Valtteri! :P

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Alfa Romeo sandbagged for 10 rounds and I'm here for it

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Tyres left after today's practice:

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Two more sets need to be returned after FP3. I guess most (top) teams would like to go into Qualifying with 2-3-2, and therefore simulate a quali run (+longrun, maybe) on hards in FP3?

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search wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 21:27
Tyres left after today's practice:

https://i.imgur.com/5SIyvXN.png

Two more sets need to be returned after FP3. I guess most (top) teams would like to go into Qualifying with 2-3-2, and therefore simulate a quali run (+longrun, maybe) on hards in FP3?
They'll do Q1 sim on hard tyre, followed by Q3 sim on soft, followed by long run on the same hard as they started.

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Weather looking better today. Could be a bit more representative than the first 2 practice sessions.

I do think with these new tyre runs there is going to be less 'cars on track' during the first practice sessions. As teams have to save tyres - so ultimately the fans lose out. Another positive step from Liberty/FOM....well done....:lol:
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