2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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MCLvamos
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Lando was doing 1:23.4s on his long run. Any idea on the other top 4 teams' times?
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LionsHeart
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Seerix wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:19
I noticed we hear Jose more and more on Lando's radio even though Will is present in the garage. Some change in positions going on?
Good question. But this has happened in recent years as well.

MCLvamos
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LionsHeart wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:08
Seerix wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:19
I noticed we hear Jose more and more on Lando's radio even though Will is present in the garage. Some change in positions going on?
Good question. But this has happened in recent years as well.
Apparently Will is due to go on paternity leave soon. May be mistaken though, remember possibly seeing it on this forum.

geogate
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the qualifying tyre rules could play into mclarens hands a little too perhaps

cliffgamerz
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MCLvamos wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:08
Lando was doing 1:23.4s on his long run. Any idea on the other top 4 teams' times?
That is closer to what Max was putting in, Max's times were in 23.1 - 23.4s

LionsHeart
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MCLvamos wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:09
LionsHeart wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:08
Seerix wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 17:19
I noticed we hear Jose more and more on Lando's radio even though Will is present in the garage. Some change in positions going on?
Good question. But this has happened in recent years as well.
Apparently Will is due to go on paternity leave soon. May be mistaken though, remember possibly seeing it on this forum.
Yes, yes, I remember, though I didn’t seem to be here yet on the forum. But it's not the first time Will has left his position with Jose. In general, they are both good engineers.

Separately: about the speed of McLaren in the second training session. It looks good, though there is not enough grip on the rear tires at the exit of the corners, otherwise there is a feeling of understeer. I would say that the balance is still far from optimal, but given the 2nd position, what is going on with the rest? Considering how some underdog teams look, I don't think the leaders have gone all out yet to test the qualifying run. Perhaps in the third training session we will better understand the alignment of forces.

MCLvamos
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cliffgamerz wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:16
MCLvamos wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:08
Lando was doing 1:23.4s on his long run. Any idea on the other top 4 teams' times?
That is closer to what Max was putting in, Max's times were in 23.1 - 23.4s
If that's any way representative, good signs! Bit less doom and gloom compared to what Lando was saying yesterday, but I do appreciate him trying not to raise hopes unnecessarily.

CjC
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Stella on where the rest of the upgrade is:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10498175/
Just a fan's point of view

LionsHeart
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Guys, I have one assumption here, one of the factors that may be holding back Lando from leaving for the Red Bull after his contract is the RBPT-Ford engines. I don't think they can get into engines like Mercedes can. Zak indirectly confirmed that he was satisfied with Mercedes, their technology, capabilities, power, ability to build engines. Reliability and other factors. They are on good terms, so why don't they continue to cooperate? I think Zak also discussed this point with Lando, so for the future I see McLaren among the leaders.

LionsHeart
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CjC wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:21
Stella on where the rest of the upgrade is:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10498175/
Can you post the full text here? Thanks!

CjC
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LionsHeart wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:27
CjC wrote:
21 Jul 2023, 18:21
Stella on where the rest of the upgrade is:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10498175/
Can you post the full text here? Thanks!
Stella:
He said: “So, first thing to say is here we have the front wing to be allocated to Oscar.

“The new front wing wasn’t possible because of the limited number of parts in the UK.

“Then when it comes to the upgrades, actually we realised that we need from a design and production point of view a bit more time to complete the full round.

“So, what we will actually see is that there will be some new parts coming in the next races and above all, post-shutdown.”

The Italian said: “It’s obviously a bit of a milestone in our journey.

“It’s important for McLaren, it’s important for the people that worked very hard to develop and deliver these upgrades, and our fans.

“But having said, it doesn’t really change what we are doing. It’s about working hard to deliver upgrades to the car and letting the results come to you and try to have this as regular as possible.”

Asked if the result at Silverstone validated the design team changes, Stella said: “By having enabled some conditions, especially when it comes to the aerodynamic development, [it] definitely accelerated the development of the car. This has allowed us to take this performance step.”

Swed3121
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Looking at estimated medium run pace on mediums (the only tyre run by all) we seem to fighting Ferrari for 2nd slightly ahead of Mercedes and somewhat ahead of Aston, of course with the massive caveat that this was a entirely jumbled up session with completely different run plans between teams

f1rules
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found on the mclaren page, engineer debrief, very light, still this was mentioned

Are we bringing further upgrades?
Oscar gets the new front wing this week bringing him up to the same spec as Lando, and we have small upgrades this weekend, as well as plenty of test items. We have test components around the front corner of the car, and we’re going to test a few parts around the floor as well. The aim is to increase load, which brings with it the risk of more porpoising – but that’s a lesser risk here that it was at Silverstone, given the profile of the Hungaroring.

With that in mind, we’ll want to start FP1 with rakes fitted to both cars to gather aero data. Once we’ve gathered enough data, we will remove them and use any remaining time and tyre life for set-up study and perhaps some launch practice.

Macklaren
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 09487.html

"Negative" Norris sounds pretty happy!

f1rules
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first suggestion, Norris looks decent and someone mentioned he was stuck behind Tsroll for the last laps, if you take that into it it looks even better
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