2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Its known LEC does not like understeer car. But if he just a bit ajust his style he can became ALO, VER, MSCesque in terms of adjusting to the car.
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aleks_ader
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His mistakes are culmination of pushing to the limit. And heck all this whining about "LEC did this and did that" is tiresome. If car would have clear advantage as in Australia 2022. He would make same numbers as VES those 2 yrs....
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aleks_ader wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 15:07
His mistakes are culmination of pushing to the limit. And heck all this whining about "LEC did this and did that" is tiresome. If car would have clear advantage as in Australia 2022. He would make same numbers as VES those 2 yrs....
Finally some sense here. Lec16 is someone who can easily churn out titles not just wins provided he is given the proper car like MSC like Seb like lewis like and max now has.

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Vanja #66
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In the Shootout, Ferrari was basically the fastest car. Leclerc made a small mistake in T9 which cost him 0.35s, a lap which otherwise would have been a pole. With Max' lap yesterday, today's results are a surprise
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:05
In the Shootout, Ferrari was basically the fastest car. Leclerc made a small mistake in T9 which cost him 0.35s, a lap which otherwise would have been a pole. With Max' lap yesterday, today's results are a surprise
Max was nowhere near the limit in final run of SQ3. The amount of margin taken at T9, T10 for instance..

Ferrari were comfortably 2nd fastest which is better than yesterday but Lewis didn't get a clean lap nor did max push so I wouldn't say it's clear the car was fastest

With max pushing + DRS enabled (as it was yesterday for Q3) prob a couple of tenths off RB
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Vanja #66
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organic wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:09
Max was nowhere near the limit in final run of SQ3. The amount of margin taken at T9, T10 for instance..

Ferrari were comfortably 2nd fastest which is better than yesterday but Lewis didn't get a clean lap nor did max push so I wouldn't say it's clear the car was fastest

With max pushing + DRS enabled (as it was yesterday for Q3) prob a couple of tenths off RB
Can't agree. Gap to Perez was the same as Q and Max was still the quickest in S2. Yesterday there was no difference on straights between Ferrari and RB, so DRS not really a factor.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:26
organic wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:09
Max was nowhere near the limit in final run of SQ3. The amount of margin taken at T9, T10 for instance..

Ferrari were comfortably 2nd fastest which is better than yesterday but Lewis didn't get a clean lap nor did max push so I wouldn't say it's clear the car was fastest

With max pushing + DRS enabled (as it was yesterday for Q3) prob a couple of tenths off RB
Can't agree. Gap to Perez was the same as Q and Max was still the quickest in S2. Yesterday there was no difference on straights between Ferrari and RB, so DRS not really a factor.
Look at the telemetry for max Vs sainz/piastri through corners where the rb19 was quickest or equal quickest yesterday..

Max said himself he took no risks but believe what you wish / we can agree to disagree

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Vanja #66
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organic wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:33
Look at the telemetry for max Vs sainz/piastri through corners where the rb19 was quickest or equal quickest yesterday..

Max said himself he took no risks but believe what you wish / we can agree to disagree

https://i.imgur.com/8sTAE4O.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Jjo7Nih.jpeg
Max lost a tenth to Leclerc there (and 2 to Sainz), so still a pole for Ferrari without Leclerc's T9 twitch :)
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:40
organic wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 16:33
Look at the telemetry for max Vs sainz/piastri through corners where the rb19 was quickest or equal quickest yesterday..

Max said himself he took no risks but believe what you wish / we can agree to disagree

https://i.imgur.com/8sTAE4O.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Jjo7Nih.jpeg
Max lost a tenth to Leclerc there (and 2 to Sainz), so still a pole for Ferrari without Leclerc's T9 twitch :)
Pointless arguments in such changeable conditions when it's almost a certainty no one did a good/perfect lap. In the end what matters is laptime that's achieved and this was it.

Ferrari is faster than RB un-drsed (was seen in both qualis), mercedes is faster still, and mclaren is slowest.

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Today’s shootout performance was definitely a positive, especially after yesterday’s laps. Though, I knew that the 8 tenths were not even close to being the true gap.

I also don’t agree with the idea that Max was cruising around. If any, he was taking as less risks as others up front. No one wants to crash on Saturday in a sprint weekend.

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So Ferrari is unable to make a decent tire change now.

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pathetic pitstops and a lot of time lost waiting for the car line to pass ferrari's box

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Guys relax, both times they got held up in the box, it was the luck of the draw, being at the start of the pitlane didn't help us at all. You guys are way too quick to jump on the team. The inter was to strong to keep Leclerc out longer to avoid traffic and unable to double stack.

Verstappen did the same and got lucky not to be held up. For Max it didn't really matter since the pace was just too much for Piastri.

Stop malding over everything

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Too bad for the bad luck with pit position and getting held up, it could have been a good scrap for P2 with Piastri otherwise. 2 points lost overall, would have been much more in a regular race.

Will be hard for Leclerc to keep Perez back if there's DRS tomorrow. If not, maybe Sainz could also hold Max back, for a few laps, at least...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Didn't really see too much of Ferrari on the TV. Was it a good race? How was tire wear?