2023 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 28 - 30

[Cs98]

We live in a world where fugazi one time winner has more right than the guy who the team is supposedly built around...
If I was Lewis it will not encourage me to sign a new contract.

That win still hurts that badly huh?

It hurts cause Merc continue with the zero sidepots because of it...

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

[Spoutnik]

That win still hurts that badly huh?

It hurts cause Merc continue with the zero sidepots because of it...

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

[InsaneX_Badger]

It hurts cause Merc continue with the zero sidepots because of it...

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

Do find it strange that RB struggle on sprint weekends, more than others it seems. But that also could be much easier for them to be exposed when in normal conditions they are expected to finish half a minute down the road.

[Willy]

45 minutes delay in Sprint Start.

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And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

Do find it strange that RB struggle on sprint weekends, more than others it seems. But that also could be much easier for them to be exposed when in normal conditions they are expected to finish half a minute down the road.

Last year they got it wrong at 2 sprints: Austria and Brazil

This year I think it's different. Their struggle seems to be down to them arriving at sprint weekends with a pure race setup and not having much time to dial in a quali balance.

They've given up on trying to chase that good quali / good race car that they can achieve on a regular weekend and they're happy with a bad quali / good race balance on a sprint weekend, rather than risking ending up with a bad race car like in 2022 on 2 occasions

[Sieper]

And in these wet/dry weekends it is easy to not be there. It has cost Perez dearly several weekends. Even low temperature already did that.

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45 minutes delay in Sprint Start.

What time is it due to start now?

And anyone know what the conditions / weather forecast are looking like

[Spoutnik]

[Cs98]

It hurts cause Merc continue with the zero sidepots because of it...

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

So last week was a fugazi pole then? Using that logic.

[Willy]

45 minutes delay in Sprint Start.

What time is it due to start now?

And anyone know what the conditions / weather forecast are looking like

17:05 local time.

[Alex_Z]

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

So last week was a fugazi pole then? Using that logic.

RBR didn't mess up the set up last week, Max failed to get the most out of the car on his second run in Q3.

[rbirules]

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

Do find it strange that RB struggle on sprint weekends, more than others it seems. But that also could be much easier for them to be exposed when in normal conditions they are expected to finish half a minute down the road.

RB have won the last 19 GPs that weren't part of a sprint weekend. The last one they lost was Silverstone last year when Max hitting debris cost him a likely win. Despite that they've won 24 of the last 25 GPs that weren't part of sprint weekends. Before that they lost Australia where Leclerc was comfortably ahead of Max before his DNF.

They've won three (Imola '22, Baku '23, Austria '23) of five sprint weekend GPs since the start of last year.

[Juzh]

Looking at sectors hamilton actually only lost a tenth in S1 on his last run compared to his previous lap, but still ended up 0.844 adrift in the end. Looking at how much other improved in S1 on final lap I'd put it at a net 4 tenths lost due to russell incident. Still only good around 5th or 6th position.

[Cs98]

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

So last week was a fugazi pole then? Using that logic.

RBR didn't mess up the set up last week, Max failed to get the most out of the car on his second run in Q3.

Max was extremely critical about the quali balance. So if we're talking about the pole/quali the same logic applies, no?

[Spoutnik]

And that's why you call it a fugazi win? Get real.

Off topic, but it's fugazi because RB totally messed up their setup that weekend, probably due to the Sprint race.

So last week was a fugazi pole then? Using that logic.

It's very different to miss a one lap shootout (cold condition, too much traffic...) and a 300km race. I will add that in Hungary RB seems to focus more on the making of the race setup which had to be made in accordance to the new upgrades.
We saw what we had to saw in race pace then..