2023 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 28 - 30

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It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable
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It's so funny. Driver can do terrorist move and close the door freely. But this is a 5 sec penalty...

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Pointless laps behind safety car caused a lot of the unsafe releases and desperate driving.

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:20
It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable
Remember that in future.

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taperoo2k wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:20
DDopey wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:15
Jolyon is such a biased reporter. Lewis just slides into Perez and broke his floor.
Perez tyres had gone off, where else was Lewis meant to place his car?
That was a racing incident, not worthy of a penalty. I'd say the same thing if
it were Max overtaking Perez and making contact.
Do you even look at the right moment ?

Lewis slides into Perez, he was not placing his car, it was overspeed in the corner.

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:16
Lenient penalty for Lewis IMHO. Signature move from him.
“signature move”

Yeah we know you’re a big Max fan but it’s high time you remove those Red Bull sunglasses you wear!

Perez all over the place can’t even race properly, Hamilton up the inside Perez steers as if Hamilton isn’t even there! Then in the straight he tries crowding Hamilton to the grass…

If there’s anyone deserving a penalty this is Perez for crowding everyone just to stay on track…

Don’t know exactly what’s your perception of racing really…! Letting the Red Bulls through or something?
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Perez was sliding all over the road. Which bit did he want?

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chrisc90 wrote:It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable
Every first corner dive bomb by Max in 21 were "elbows out racing by a future world champion" I have a hard time taking this comment seriously

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"Top 3 finish in a sort of a race"
~Oscar Piastri
has a way with words that lad haha

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It wasn't Checo corner, Lewis was alongside.
Furthermore, it's always an excuse to say "oh he outbraked himslef" "oh he had oversteer" (i.e Max moves at the end of 2021...) to not penalize.
This penalty makes no sense.

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denyall wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:25
chrisc90 wrote:It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable
Every first corner dive bomb by Max in 21 were "elbows out racing by a future world champion" I have a hard time taking this comment seriously
Indeed.

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Perez was half a car length ahead so in any and all scenarios hamilton simply understeered into him, no two ways about it. There's room for 2 cars on hamilton's inside, so no excuse for hitting Perez. 5s deserved for destroying competitor race.

Piastri was about to be overtaken just before SC already, so it didn't make a difference for him. RB gaining truck lengths on both straights.

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DAMNINice wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:11
Why TF is no one checking the unsafe releases?
GAS is only 3rds because of the unsafe release.
Thats a good point.

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Matt2725 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:25
Spoutnik wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:20
It's so funny. Driver can do terrorist move and close the door freely. But this is a 5 sec penalty...
Leave that sort of talk to Elon Musk's platform.
I didn't know you were a moderator.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:24
chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2023, 18:16
Lenient penalty for Lewis IMHO. Signature move from him.
“signature move”

Yeah we know you’re a big Max fan but it’s high time you remove those Red Bull sunglasses you wear!

Perez all over the place can’t even race properly, Hamilton up the inside Perez steers as if Hamilton isn’t even there! Then in the straight he tries crowding Hamilton to the grass…

If there’s anyone deserving a penalty this is Perez for crowding everyone just to stay on track…

Don’t know exactly what’s your perception of racing really…! Letting the Red Bulls through or something?
Perez was on the kerb. Where else do you expect him to go? Down the gravel to avoid Lewis after he’s pushed him wide on outside?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.