2023 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 28 - 30

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It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable

Every first corner dive bomb by Max in 21 were "elbows out racing by a future world champion" I have a hard time taking this comment seriously

In fairness, racing rules have changed substantially since the beginning of 2022. The stewards made this clear and we've discussed these changes a lot here

[ValeVida46]

It wasn't Checo corner, Lewis was alongside.
Furthermore, it's always an excuse to say "oh he outbraked himslef" "oh he had oversteer" (i.e Max moves at the end of 2021...) to not penalize.
This penalty makes no sense.

This.

If "it's called racing", why are these dubious decisions allowed?
We might even see more tomorrow with a totally different outcome. Zero consistency and utterly ridiculous.

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Why TF is no one checking the unsafe releases?
GAS is only 3rds because of the unsafe release.

Hopefully someone takes some footage to the stewards post-race, AMR style

There are certainly cases to be made for unsafe releases. Off the top of my head Max's, Leclerc's and Gasly's looked slightly sketchy

[Otromundo]

I'm sorry to say it, but the races begin to remind me more and more strongly of the affairs of politicians and/or commercials on television. I prefer the old system. The current one seems excessively complicated and boring to me, something that seems totally contrary to the competition itself. Luckily Verstappen doesn't care, his comment about the sleeping brakes was the funniest part of today's mini-race.

[denyall]

It was Checo’s corner. Irrespective of whether he was slow or not, if Lewis comes down the inside he has to leave room on the outside. Perez was already on the kerbs so Lewis had to leave room. No room left meant he hit checo. Collision caused. Penalty inevitable

Every first corner dive bomb by Max in 21 were "elbows out racing by a future world champion" I have a hard time taking this comment seriously

In fairness, racing rules have changed substantially since the beginning of 2022. The stewards made this clear and we've discussed these changes a lot here

Fair enough, however the double standard is very frustrating.

I also don't mean to characterize HAM pass today as a "dive bomb" because I don't think it was. Racing incident imo.

[Henri]

It wasn't Checo corner, Lewis was alongside.
Furthermore, it's always an excuse to say "oh he outbraked himslef" "oh he had oversteer" (i.e Max moves at the end of 2021...) to not penalize.
This penalty makes no sense.

This.

If "it's called racing", why are these dubious decisions allowed?
We might even see more tomorrow with a totally different outcome. Zero consistency and utterly ridiculous.

Stewards are a joke

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Paper sidepods or actual significant contact?

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Every first corner dive bomb by Max in 21 were "elbows out racing by a future world champion" I have a hard time taking this comment seriously

In fairness, racing rules have changed substantially since the beginning of 2022. The stewards made this clear and we've discussed these changes a lot here

Fair enough, however the double standard is very frustrating.

I also don't mean to characterize HAM pass today as a "dive bomb" because I don't think it was. Racing incident imo.

I agree - racing incident.

[f1jcw]

Paper sidepods or actual significant contact?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2N60b3XAAA ... me=900x900

Weight saving?

[Spoutnik]

Why TF is no one checking the unsafe releases?
GAS is only 3rds because of the unsafe release.

Hopefully someone takes some footage to the stewards post-race, AMR style

There are certainly cases to be made for unsafe releases. Off the top of my head Max's, Leclerc's and Gasly's looked slightly sketchy

I think Leclerc had the worst unsafe release tbh.
But Merc won't challenge this one ofc they will just accept what the FIA says

[InsaneX_Badger]

Paper sidepods or actual significant contact?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2N60b3XAAA ... me=900x900

They're not the thickest material, but it's going to be shredded when a heavy and fast rotating tyre makes contact

[Henri]

Sprint races are crap

[Spoutnik]

Sprint races are crap

Agreed.
And today we had something like 8 laps of full racing...

[InsaneX_Badger]

Sprint races are crap

Tbh I think it was hampered by the race directors decided when to race more than anything, not to mention Alonso DNF reduced it and DNFs are a part of racing whether that's sprint or Grand Prix. But the biggest issue is that if the track can't provide the racing it doesn't make much difference being 10 laps or 100 laps it just won't give anything, and spa hasn't been the best in the last few years.

[Sieper]

Cool and collected by Max. Piastri, good, quick and very down to earth. Gasly a bit lucky nothing on the unsafe release, from my viewpoint that is correct, no harm done and it was super crowded. Lewis unlucky to have understeer, something that sometimes happens to him.