2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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I was really hoping he could stay within 5 seconds of Lewis, but clearly his tires were completely shot.

Still a positive result.
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djos wrote:
30 Jul 2023, 03:12
I was really hoping he could stay within 5 seconds of Lewis, but clearly his tires were completely shot.

Still a positive result.
Daniel's not usually spectacular in these conditions and AT are running very low on DF this weekend so it was very commendable to finish P10 (P11 without Checo's retirement)

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Yeah quite a bit of praise already for that drive. I mean beating half the field in a car that is a backmarker currently. Ted Kravitz saying DR is already top driver in the team after 2 races. A normal race and thats a point for AT which is no mean feat.

"It hasn’t taken the Australian veteran long to take a stranglehold on his new outfit, as pit-lane analyst Ted Kravitz explained on Sky Sports.

“If this was a Grand Prix, (Ricciardo) would score a point,” Kravitz said.

“That is phenomenal. I’m going to call it. I’m going to really exaggerate the significance of that result and call it phenomenal.

“So Ricciardo is clearly the team leader. He’s clearly the team leader now. I’m sorry Yuki, but he is. You can understand that, he’s a seven or eight-time Grand Prix winner.”"


https://www.news.com.au/sport/motorspor ... 31d9261395

May as well start him from pit lane and go with the optimal setup. Maybe start on mediums and run long, that way not losing as much time per lap on hards and might be able to pass some other cars early?

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Yeah, that would be a smart strategy, assuming a dry track.
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Yeah just thinking given its such a long lap he might lose too much time on hards starting from the back. I guess have to wait and see what the weather is like. If its dry and he can tyre whisper again on mediums and run as long as some on hards who knows where he might finish.

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A pitlane start wouldn't hurt much to be honest. There's probably going to be a SC period as well

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Decent result for yuki with a point. Hard luck for Dan, stuck behind both Haas for ages, probably one of the worst to be stuck behind with the better top speed than AT. All boils back to Dan getting rolled for track limits in qualli. Just one of those small things costing alot. Could have had both cars in the points possibly if Dan didn't get done for those track limits.

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Seems like the rebrand will be based around another fashion brand next year - obviously not alpha tauri this time.

This is according to Chris Stevens a Motorsport/F1 journalist. Couldn't reveal which brand due to NDA

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Yuki drove a great race at Spa! Finally he got a good strategy. His start was also great! =D>

https://scuderia.alphatauri.com/en/2023 ... 23_BelGP23

Drivers and Team’s quotes after the race

Yuki Tsunoda (AT04-04, Car 22)
Race: Pos. 10th

“The team did a fantastic job today; the car was flying and I’m happy to finish in the points before the summer break. A huge well done to the entire team: the mechanics, people in Bicester and Faenza, and trackside engineers. It’s been a long time since I scored points, and I’ve been struggling in the last few races, so I’m very happy now. We were slightly lucky with a couple of cars retiring in front of us, but I felt really comfortable during the race. The car went naturally forward, and I was just managing my tyres. At one point there was some rain, but fortunately, it stopped quite quickly, and I could keep up the pace and drive consistently. After the horrible day I had yesterday, I didn’t want to take that feeling into the summer break, so I’m happy I could extract and maximise the car’s performance. I feel I could give back to the team, apologise to them, and give them a little bit of positive energy going into the break. Now I’ll rest as much as I can and prepare for the second half of the season.”

Daniel Ricciardo (AT04-03, Car 3)
Race: Pos. 16th

“Honestly, it was tough in traffic. Maybe a race with more clear air could’ve been better, but in general I’m not convinced we had great pace today. It felt like we never got the peak out of the tyres, and we couldn’t generate enough grip in the second sector. When we were in clear air later in the race, I felt we were more competitive, but in traffic, it was definitely hard. The reality is, these were my first dry laps in this car on this track, and I don’t know this car that well yet, so I still felt there was a little missing, but we’ll figure it out. Many are now looking forward to a well-deserved holiday, but the situation is slightly different for me as the break is a good chance for me to keep working behind the scenes. After a few days off, I’ll spend time in the gym and use my days training, to be able to further improve on my race fitness.”
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My hunch is Uniqlo as title sponsor.
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 07:33
My hunch is Uniqlo as title sponsor.
Plausible - Dan seems to have some big fashion thing in the works too - or at least that seems to be what he has implied. I wonder if there is a tie up?
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31 Jul 2023, 02:03
Seems like the rebrand will be based around another fashion brand next year - obviously not alpha tauri this time.

This is according to Chris Stevens a Motorsport/F1 journalist. Couldn't reveal which brand due to NDA
Current rumours from racingnews365 and formula.hu point to this fashion brand being Hugo Boss.

Scuderia Hugo Boss Racing.. not very catchy

Same sources also claim oil company Orlen are in discussions for full title sponsorship

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organic wrote:
02 Aug 2023, 16:22
organic wrote:
31 Jul 2023, 02:03
Seems like the rebrand will be based around another fashion brand next year - obviously not alpha tauri this time.

This is according to Chris Stevens a Motorsport/F1 journalist. Couldn't reveal which brand due to NDA
.
Current rumours from racingnews365 and formula.hu point to this fashion brand being Hugo Boss.

Scuderia Hugo Boss Racing.. not very catchy

Same sources also claim oil company Orlen are in discussions for full title sponsorship
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I don't know how reliable this writer is, but he writes as if it were already a fait accompli.

Strange name Team Boss/ Team Boss Orange.

Translated:

AlphaTauri: Faenza is not being sold and the team will be called Boss

Roberto Chinchero
Aug 2, 2023, 4:46 pm

Oliver Mintzlaff, head of sports programs of the Red Bull Group, excludes the sale of the junior team (there had been an offer of one billion dollars) and indeed points to the full financial autonomy of the Romagna team: the Austrian manager has closed an agreement of sponsorship with Hugo Boss, the clothing company formerly linked to McLaren and now sponsor of Aston Martin. From next year it will be the title sponsor with a high-profile financial commitment.

Since Helmut Marko announced in the spring that AlphaTauri will be registered for next season with a different name, the hunt for the name of the sponsor that will replace the clothing house and the Austrian group has started.

According to information that emerged from several sources during the Spa weekend, the new sponsor should also be a clothing house, a well-known name that boasts a long militancy in Formula 1. It is Hugo Boss, a company in the past linked to McLaren and now sponsor of Aston Martin

However, the operation with the Faenza team is of a different nature, because from what has been learned Boss is in advanced negotiations to become the title sponsor of the team, with a high-profile presence and financial commitment.

The operation is part of the project supported by the new head of sports programs of the Red Bull Group, Oliver Mintzlaff, which aims to make the Faenza structure financially independent. Therefore the rumors of a possible sale of the team expired, despite several purchase proposals received in recent months which according to rumors would have exceeded one billion dollars.

After the restructuring that brought the former Ferrari sporting director, Laurent Mekies, into the role of team principal, and the former FIA general secretary, Peter Bayer, into that of managing director, the maneuvers on the financial front continue. If the agreement with the Boss group goes through, the Faenza team will be called "Boss" or "Boss Orange", i.e. the two clothing lines of the group.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-al ... /10503475/
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Wow this would be bi if they can get the car anywhere like the RB19. Could you imagine next year Ricciardo or Tsunoda beating the RB20 in the RB19 type car. :o Although as others have mentioned its not really legal to copy, but how do they prove with the complex CAD software etc and being able to see photos such as the floor of the RB19 like when Perez exposed it they are not just drawing inspiration from the RB19. Going to be interesting to see how it all works out given Marko said they want to align the new rebranded team more closely with RBR.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... 2024-grid/
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An hour before MS Italia --> the real source of the rumour came with a much more reliable article: Formula Hu.

https://formula.hu/f1/2023/08/02/exkluz ... j-nevadoja
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Exclusive: Could a legendary fashion brand be the new name of AlphaTauri?

Hugo Boss in pole position?

During the weeks-long joint investigation of RacingNews365 and Formula.hu, we learned that there are several possible scenarios regarding the future of the smaller team, but the most likely is that the place of the fashion brand will be taken over by another, much larger fashion brand, namely Hugo Boss.

Hugo Boss has a significant history in F1: the brand was a sponsor of McLaren for three decades, including the most successful period in the team's history. They were in an alliance with Mercedes from 2015 to 2017, then left the premier category and briefly focused on Formula E, from which they returned this year as a partner of Aston Martin. The driving force behind the current involvement in F1 – and the expected expansion – is CEO Daniel Grieder, who has been in charge of Hugo Boss since the summer of 2021.

In the course of our investigations, we contacted the press department of Hugo Boss several times, from which we usually received the same answer: "Our brand, Boss, is currently and will continue to be the fashion partner of the Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team. Beyond that, we cannot make any further statements regarding the questions asked."

The position is firm, but it is worth noting when reading between the lines: the communiqué does not categorically deny the suggestion that the brand might be preparing to expand its presence in F1 by becoming the eponymous supporter of another team. At Red Bull, we received the same answer to several inquiries: the decision has not yet been made and there is no need to rush it.

According to our informants, there is also an alternative, namely from Central Europe: the logo of the Polish oil company Orlen, which is also connected to Saudi Aramco, can still be seen on the overalls of Yuki Tsunoda and Daniel Ricciardo, on the AT04 racing car, and on other surfaces of the team, and the company is said to be open to deepen cooperation.

According to industry sources, the company - which is currently the "main partner" of the team in Faenza - would also be willing to step forward as a name sponsor, negotiations in this regard are said to have taken place. According to the rumors heard in the whirlwind of the paddock, it is also inconceivable that the German fashion brand and the oil company will have a significant role in the team at the same time. We sent our questions to the Polish oil company, but they have not yet responded to our inquiry.

Since the renaming of an F1 team can be realized as a result of a more complex process, according to the experts interviewed by RacingNews365 and Formula.hu, the decision cannot be postponed for too long. If they want the Faenza team to enter the ring with a new name and financial background in 2024, the decision must be made no later than the end of summer, the beginning of the autumn period, roughly the height of September, so that there is enough time for everything.
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