2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

[issey]

Would be smart to build and develop it before 2026

[-wkst-]

Fan Account, makes a story out of nothing...

AM has a contract with Mercedes and has to pay 8-9 millions per year until the end of 25. Krack already said in Monaco that they have no intention to have an in house solution until 26. It is the other way round, they are pushing for a less complicated and cheaper gear box rules for 26.

[diffuser]

There was talk of going to a common gearbox.

[issey]

There was talk of going to a common gearbox.

Krack himself said they will develop their own gearbox after their move into the new factory and maybe they use it before 26 we never know whats going on behind closed doors

[diffuser]

There was talk of going to a common gearbox.

Krack himself said they will develop their own gearbox after their move into the new factory and maybe they use it before 26 we never know whats going on behind closed doors

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-u ... /10473629/
May 28, 2023 06:26 PM

While the power unit rules have already been fixed, everything related to the chassis is still under discussion, and inevitably part of the focus is on cost reduction.

Gearboxes are an obvious target as they are not regarded as a performance differentiator, and efforts have been made in the past to address the issue of cutting expenditure, including a failed attempt to introduce a common gearbox before the current rules came into force.
Krack noted that discussions with the FIA on the subject are ongoing.

“We have been in talks with FIA about if it does not make sense to go simpler, go more cost-effective on gearboxes, with simpler technology, and also maybe less units per year that you would need in an attempt to just make the whole sport more sustainable," said Krack.

“The sum of the paddock [spending] is over $100 million a year. You could ask yourself, is that needed, if you look at other categories?

[AR3-GP]

There was talk of going to a common gearbox.

Krack himself said they will develop their own gearbox after their move into the new factory and maybe they use it before 26 we never know whats going on behind closed doors

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-u ... /10473629/
May 28, 2023 06:26 PM

While the power unit rules have already been fixed, everything related to the chassis is still under discussion, and inevitably part of the focus is on cost reduction.

Gearboxes are an obvious target as they are not regarded as a performance differentiator, and efforts have been made in the past to address the issue of cutting expenditure, including a failed attempt to introduce a common gearbox before the current rules came into force.
Krack noted that discussions with the FIA on the subject are ongoing.

“We have been in talks with FIA about if it does not make sense to go simpler, go more cost-effective on gearboxes, with simpler technology, and also maybe less units per year that you would need in an attempt to just make the whole sport more sustainable," said Krack.

“The sum of the paddock [spending] is over $100 million a year. You could ask yourself, is that needed, if you look at other categories?

Well we could go full indycar. The sum of the paddock must be spending 1bn a year to make different cars .

Constructors should be able to design a gearbox that best suits their own car. Sometimes it's not about shift speed. Look at the RB gearbox that was introduced since 2021. It's an incredibly narrow box. It might not shift any faster than anyone else's, but they made an innovative packaging solution for it. That should be rewarded, not stripped away by a spec box.

[Zynerji]

Krack himself said they will develop their own gearbox after their move into the new factory and maybe they use it before 26 we never know whats going on behind closed doors

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-u ... /10473629/
May 28, 2023 06:26 PM

While the power unit rules have already been fixed, everything related to the chassis is still under discussion, and inevitably part of the focus is on cost reduction.

Gearboxes are an obvious target as they are not regarded as a performance differentiator, and efforts have been made in the past to address the issue of cutting expenditure, including a failed attempt to introduce a common gearbox before the current rules came into force.
Krack noted that discussions with the FIA on the subject are ongoing.

“We have been in talks with FIA about if it does not make sense to go simpler, go more cost-effective on gearboxes, with simpler technology, and also maybe less units per year that you would need in an attempt to just make the whole sport more sustainable," said Krack.

“The sum of the paddock [spending] is over $100 million a year. You could ask yourself, is that needed, if you look at other categories?

Well we could go full indycar. The sum of the paddock must be spending 1bn a year to make different cars .

Constructors should be able to design a gearbox that best suits their own car. Sometimes it's not about shift speed. Look at the RB gearbox that was introduced since 2021. It's an incredibly narrow box. It might not shift any faster than anyone else's, but they made an innovative packaging solution for it. That should be rewarded, not stripped away by a spec box.

I'm less a fan of spec parts like transmissions, and more a fan of baseline derivatives. IE: spec "control" car, but encouragement to develop from a common starting point. So, you would have your spec gearbox, but teams could modify as they wish. Obviously there would need to be some pieces that must be included for it to not just be a "100% modified" unit that has no relationship to the control unit.

[AR3-GP]

Spec part failures (Which would be inevitable here), also bring into question fairness. Teams should live and die by their own choices.

[KimiRai]

In my opinion there is no way they will do a gearbox before 2026. Though, something that could be done before 2026 is their own rear suspension but we don't know yet about that... I think they should try, the more experience the better. To be honest, now that we look at all the things which Aston depends on others and being technically limited by these, it's almost a miracle they built such a great car at the start of the season. Or as Krack said, the extent of the failure of the big teams too except Red Bull. Regardless it reassures there is strong grey matter in the departments and personally I'm not too worried that some upgrades may not have worked as intended, I have high confidence in them for the long term, just want Fernando to be there when the moment comes.

[issey]

This is so random , professional tennis player

[NAPI10]

This is so random , professional tennis player

It's funny but I wont mind

[KimiRai]

Nugnes from Motorsport Italy says as far as Zandvoort and Monza, it will be circuit specific adjustments, "nothing so significant". So conflicting accounts then.

[peewon]

https://racingnews365.com/krack-closing ... x-f1-rules]

I hope I'm wrong but whenever I hear things like this in the media from people in senior positions, it tells me that they're not doing great. Its an insight into their mindset. No team which is doing well in development would ever lament the complexity of rules. So I would not expect much in the short term at least.

[KimiRai]

New floor according to Barretto.

[KimiRai]