2023 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort, Aug 25 - 27

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Ricciardo to hospital (for pictures) with wrist in mitella.

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@tonisokolov1011 on twitter has made this. As usual

Hamilton's long run looked great

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Point out any mistakes if you notice them.

- in the averages section Russell and Perez are listed as HAM and VER respectively
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Sargeant was almost as quick as Norris on Softs, so would have made sense to add him as well. But so far it looks like the only tyre the Williams works well on.

edit: and in the medium ranking VER is actually PER

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organic wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 18:01
@tonisokolov1011 on twitter has made this. As usual

Hamilton's long run looked great

https://i.imgur.com/gtaE5eG.png

Point out any mistakes if you notice them.

- in the averages section Russell and Perez are listed as HAM and VER respectively
16.8 medium tire average for stroll makes you wonder where Alonso where end up. Alonso's hard tire average is already quicker than Stroll's medium run. Aston might be back (at least relative to Mclaren and Mercedes)
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Who'd be Ricky Ardo's most likely replacement if he can't drive anymore this weekend?

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 18:19
Who'd be Ricky Ardo's most likely replacement if he can't drive anymore this weekend?
Lawson and De Vries are both at the track and both are under contract to drive for RB in this sort of isntance. De Vries isn't in RB's plans for the future so they have little desire to give him more experience, but it's not optimal circumstances for Lawson to drive 2023 car / a competitive F1 weekend for the first time given there will have been little preparation.

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25 Aug 2023, 18:23

Lawson and De Vries are both at the track and both are under contract to drive for RB in this sort of isntance. De Vries isn't in RB's plans for the future so they have little desire to give him more experience, but it's not optimal circumstances for Lawson to drive 2023 car / a competitive F1 weekend for the first time given there will have been little preparation.

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De Vries would be the safe choice, and you'd think he would be pretty motivated to have a good showing. I doubt Nyck would say no if they asked, so this must be RB wanting to give Lawson a look while also potentially not wanting to entertain going back down the de Vries well. A touch of pride getting in the way maybe?

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De Vries would be the safe choice, and you'd think he would be pretty motivated to have a good showing. I doubt Nyck would say no if they asked, so this must be RB wanting to give Lawson a look while also potentially not wanting to entertain going back down the de Vries well. A touch of pride getting in the way maybe?
Marko and pride getting in the way. Surely not :wink:

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What’s with all the cottling of Lawson? Maybe he wants to drive! Maybe he is eager to impress!
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25 Aug 2023, 18:39
What’s with all the cottling of Lawson? Maybe he wants to drive! Maybe he is eager to impress!
Also his first weekends in a new series tend to be decent.... p1 f2 debut, p1 DTM debut, p1 Super formula debut :mrgreen:

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I can’t see Daniel driving in Monza either.
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organic wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 18:01
@tonisokolov1011 on twitter has made this. As usual

Hamilton's long run looked great

https://i.imgur.com/gtaE5eG.png

Point out any mistakes if you notice them.

- in the averages section Russell and Perez are listed as HAM and VER respectively
He just arbitrarily removes certain lap times though. Like Lewis drove a 17,5 when his tyres first started to drop. That's an X here. Contrast with Alonso where he keeps a 17.9 from the first lap. You'd think it would be relatively straightforward but you can always make the numbers sing a false tune.
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25 Aug 2023, 18:55
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Confirmed by Autosport, direct Marko quote. I think Riccy will be out for Monza too.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ricci ... /10511474/
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organic wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 18:35
vanburin wrote:
25 Aug 2023, 18:33


De Vries would be the safe choice, and you'd think he would be pretty motivated to have a good showing. I doubt Nyck would say no if they asked, so this must be RB wanting to give Lawson a look while also potentially not wanting to entertain going back down the de Vries well. A touch of pride getting in the way maybe?
Marko and pride getting in the way. Surely not :wink:
No point putting De Vries back in the car. This is an opportunity to somewhat evaluate Lawson without him feeling the pressure of having to beat Tsunoda.