2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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Re: 2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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RB don't seem very quick on 1 lap? McLaren are back baby ?

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GP seemed quite confident. Max had a lot of traffic in sector 2 and wanted a second go, to get a read off the car on the limit. GP said no, it is not qualy.

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Re: 2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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oh Perez. Screwed everyone's race runs.
A lion must kill its prey.

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Sergio is washed up. he has definitely on a similar path to Daniel Ricciardo and Sebastian Vettel. Some drivers age like fine wine, while some age like milk.
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Re: 2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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Yep, Perez was quite fast up to that point. Overdriving again.

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On high fuel rb are crushing everyone again. normal service resumed

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Perez crashing every other weekend while in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen is really hurting my sensibility.

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dialtone wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:04
Perez crashing every other weekend while in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen is really hurting my sensibility.
At the very least, Bottas and Barichello in similar roles were dead on reliable.

I have no doubt Checo will be threatening for a pole and/or win next race though...

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Checo seemed up to the crash competitive here to be fair

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dialtone wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:04
Perez crashing every other weekend while in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen is really hurting my sensibility.
Checo is not in the W11.

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organic wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:23
Checo seemed up to the crash competitive here to be fair
Yes he was. That was indeed a standout. Bit likely he was overdriving to get to that result.

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Sieper wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:26
dialtone wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:04
Perez crashing every other weekend while in the most dominant car F1 has ever seen is really hurting my sensibility.
Checo is not in the W11.
W11 got at most 5 wins in a row with Sir Lewis Hamilton. The worst result of the RB19 from Max is 2nd, which he arrived at only 2 times and only because his team mate won the race instead, so still an RB19.

Even if you put together Bottas and Hamilton result lines they don't put together a streak of results as RB19 has, and this year the past 8-9 races have all been in mixed conditions and very complex to drive and yet it's always in front, doesn't even matter where he starts on the grid, 15th quali in Saudi and finished 2nd, 9th quali in Miami and won... Then all the other races it's either 1st or 2nd in Hungary and obviously wins. Naah, no car has ever been this crushingly dominant ever.

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Conveniently ignoring the various ridiculous circumstances that caused the car not to win more than 5 consecutively...

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01 Sep 2023, 18:43
Conveniently ignoring the various ridiculous circumstances that caused the car not to win more than 5 consecutively...
Are there no such things for the RB19 so far? Isn't that a comment that can be made for any dominant car and not winning all races of the season?

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dialtone wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:44
organic wrote: ↑
01 Sep 2023, 18:43
Conveniently ignoring the various ridiculous circumstances that caused the car not to win more than 5 consecutively...
Are there no such things for the RB19 so far? Isn't that a comment that can be made for any dominant car and not winning all races of the season?
True! But generally you lose races on pace. W11 only had one race it lost on pace and it required RB to play a worldy with strategy at Silverstone with max also driving a perfect race, not to mention Merc used the wrong downforce level. We haven't seen RB lose on pace yet, but it's only just over halfway through the season