2023 Haas F1 Team

[Zynerji]

Wasn't 2019 the last time Haas brought an update to their car in-season?

Definitely feels like that is correct, but I may be exaggerating...

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Wasn't 2019 the last time Haas brought an update to their car in-season?

Definitely feels like that is correct, but I may be exaggerating...

Hungary 2022 was a big upgrade package for Haas. Didn't bring a huge step in performance, but an upgrade package nonetheless

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2017-2018 wasn't that bad on tires. Those cars were decent upper midfield, especially in 2018. they just didn't have the drivers to show it.

There was a tire change for 2019 that ruined them (and they were not alone, even Mercedes was all out of sorts at the beginning of the year, albeit only briefly on that new tire). It's been all downhill since then.

What I meant was that they’d have random races where they couldn’t explain their performance and claimed it was tire related. I’m thinking like Japan 2017 or Mexico 2018 or even Austria 2018. But generally yes those two years weren’t that bad on the whole.

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https://the-race.com/formula-1/haas-pla ... gest-ever/

Everyone loves a good b-spec car speculation

I mean their logic that they haven’t produced many updates because they haven’t seen substantial benefits in the tunnel/sim checks out but that’s still quite alarming.

Wonder if we’ll get water slides or just the plain ramps like RB/Alfa.

[Zynerji]

2017-2018 wasn't that bad on tires. Those cars were decent upper midfield, especially in 2018. they just didn't have the drivers to show it.

There was a tire change for 2019 that ruined them (and they were not alone, even Mercedes was all out of sorts at the beginning of the year, albeit only briefly on that new tire). It's been all downhill since then.

What I meant was that they’d have random races where they couldn’t explain their performance and claimed it was tire related. I’m thinking like Japan 2017 or Mexico 2018 or even Austria 2018. But generally yes those two years weren’t that bad on the whole.

HAAS has had really good cars at the start of the season, but never develop them because they can't get to the limit of what they have. So they have no direction on what to focus on next and they make nothing or just integrate others' concepts.

I'm sure Dallara laugh at them for their ineptitude in this regard.

It's a failure of leadership. Period. Guenther might be a guy with a following, but he doesn't have a resume worth keeping. I'd hire Claire over Guenther, and that is saying something

[CaribouBread]

CGI Promotional image of their new downwash redbull esque sidepods. The livery itself is quite horrendous in my opinion.

[scuderiabrandon]

CGI Promotional image of their new downwash redbull esque sidepods. The livery itself is quite horrendous in my opinion.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8kEy0vWUAA ... =4096x4096

This is the F1 23 my team car model.

[CaribouBread]

CGI Promotional image of their new downwash redbull esque sidepods. The livery itself is quite horrendous in my opinion.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8kEy0vWUAA ... =4096x4096

This is the F1 23 my team car model.

[F1NAC]

CGI Promotional image of their new downwash redbull esque sidepods. The livery itself is quite horrendous in my opinion.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8kEy0vWUAA ... =4096x4096

This is the F1 23 my team car model.

Lol . Amus picked that photo also as a possible cgi of real car

[Venturiation]

Is this their first time making an upgrade or it's test bench for 2024 Ferrari

[Vanja #66]

Any reports on how happy the team is with update performance?

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Any reports on how happy the team is with update performance?

On German Sky, Hülkenberg yesterday said that it's impossible to say so far. The track type is too unique, and the most bumpy he has ever driven on.

[Vanja #66]

Thanks!

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"deg is monumental", Hülkenberg just radioed to the team after 11 laps in the sprint

[Xyz22]

"deg is monumental", Hülkenberg just radioed to the team after 11 laps in the sprint

They bought all the possible components from Ferrari. It's absolutely normal that the car is awful.