2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

[vorticism]

Very interesting to see the Redbull after the removal of illegal flexing floors.

It does make you wonder. The flexing front wing inboard attachment point (not the flap) was said to be AMR and maybe some others. Of which I still haven't found visual evidence (link?). The floor TD was vague and did not specify a new test (that I read) rather instructed that the plank must be one piece and shouldn't deflect in any way, which implies beneficial flex might exist beyond what can be found with the existing three ram lift. Which has to be a small amount of flex regardless, there are not many degrees of freedom between the lift points and the presumably planar (as typical) monocoque and engine/transmission underside. All this said to demystify.

Other factors:

-street circuit
-new floor edge and RW parts not working (seems unlikely though)
-their race pace is generally better
-detuning PU for whatever reason

While RB is making headlines for the wrong reasons, nobody talking about Haas sticking it to Q3 with both cars. Impressive!

Never underestimate the pettiness of journalists.

[TFSA]

How bad was the impeeding on each case? Likelihood of penalties or just reprimands?

Well, the one incident with Tsunoda is pretty slam dunk, if you ask me. The one at the pitlane is also quite sus, but I'm not familiar with the rules there, there was green light but MV was stationary for some seconds. I'm not aware of what happened with the third one.

This is the Sargent one (his cam froze as he passed VER, so this was the best i could get), end of Q1, all the cars waiting to start final lap at T17/18.

It's a tight squeeze, but he didn't lift, nor brake. He was flat out past VER.
I honestly can't call that one, but VER wasn't really positioned smartly, so i think they might penalize for that one.

[Sofa King]

The quali sim is on point, which leads me to believe Merc could actually win this on race pace if they alternate strategies between RUS and HAM

https://twitter.com/tonisokolov1011/st ... R-IeRofygg

[AR3-GP]

Makes you wonder how the management at Aston rationalizes keep Lance in the seat.

What management? The father says the son drives.

[Spoutnik]

Hamilton can pul out a Vettel 2019 : being pitted first to prevent an undercut, but as th undercut is so powerful, end up in 1st

[Bill_Kar]

The quali sim is on point, which leads me to believe Merc could actually win this on race pace if they alternate strategies between RUS and HAM

https://twitter.com/tonisokolov1011/st ... R-IeRofygg

Yep, the fight will be between MB and Ferrari. I reckon that MB will be faster than Ferrari, especially mid- and late- stints, so if either MB makes the jump during the pits or a SC comes into play nicely, they can win the race by drifting forward. Or, they stay stuck behind the Ferraris and we have a close finish.

Strategy needs to be on point for either team, and I'm not sure who can handle it better between them

I would have thought FA would be there too, his race pace seemed strong, but starting way back is bad news.

[dialtone]

SAI v VER Q2 best laps



* Speed overall is worse for RBR through the curve, the main cause is the corner exit from RBR is pretty bad, T3 (600m) and T7 (1800m) in particular is easy to see how slow Max is to get back on throttle. In T3 and follow on straight Max loses 0.4s. But even when the corner exit is similar RBR is behind on speed.
* Max extremely gentle on braking in S2, particularly T10-11-13 (2400 to 3200m), 0.3s loss here.
* Ferrari actually faster under DRS than without DRS.
* Ferrari high DF fast speed cornering problems are still there as pretty evident from the last corner where RBR is still much better, also due to Ferrari overheating the tires.

[vorticism]

Makes you wonder how the management at Aston rationalizes keep Lance in the seat.

What management? The father says the son drives.

Son needs to tell father to give it a shot, then father will finally stop telling son to drive at 11/10ths.

[Oleo]

SAI v VER Q2 best laps

https://i.imgur.com/MWVpwn0.jpeg

* Speed overall is worse for RBR through the curve, the main cause is the corner exit from RBR is pretty bad, T3 (600m) and T7 (1800m) in particular is easy to see how slow Max is to get back on throttle. In T3 and follow on straight Max loses 0.4s. But even when the corner exit is similar RBR is behind on speed.
* Max extremely gentle on braking in S2, particularly T10-11-13 (2400 to 3200m), 0.3s loss here.
* Ferrari actually faster under DRS than without DRS.
* Ferrari high DF fast speed cornering problems are still there as pretty evident from the last corner where RBR is still much better, also due to Ferrari overheating the tires.

Verstappen had a big twist + correction in corner 3 which explains the poor exit

[Wouter]

Very interesting to see the Redbull after the removal of illegal flexing floors.

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Do yo have some proof that their woes are down to this? Show me the proof!

Do you know they drove in Quali with the old spec floor?!

[Just_a_fan]

Maybe they should put Lawson in that other seat, he could go faster

should put him in merc, ham slacking all weekend as well

And he's how far ahead of the two drivers driving one of the most dominant cars in history...?

Wow, it's always interesting to see how quickly the Ham-hate comes out.

[AR3-GP]

SAI v VER Q2 best laps

https://i.imgur.com/MWVpwn0.jpeg

* Speed overall is worse for RBR through the curve, the main cause is the corner exit from RBR is pretty bad, T3 (600m) and T7 (1800m) in particular is easy to see how slow Max is to get back on throttle. In T3 and follow on straight Max loses 0.4s. But even when the corner exit is similar RBR is behind on speed.
* Max extremely gentle on braking in S2, particularly T10-11-13 (2400 to 3200m), 0.3s loss here.
* Ferrari actually faster under DRS than without DRS.
* Ferrari high DF fast speed cornering problems are still there as pretty evident from the last corner where RBR is still much better, also due to Ferrari overheating the tires.

+1.

[Hammerfist]

Fully expecting normal service by FP3 or the latest quali when the engine gets turned back up.

Worst case is there is actually a hint of a race (like we got for the first 15 laps of Monza)

Overconfidence is such a powerful drug. But you're right there is actually more than a hint of a race for the win but RBR aren't going to be part of it.

[djones]

Very interesting to see the Redbull after the removal of illegal flexing floors.

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Do yo have some proof that their woes are down to this? Show me the proof!

Do you know they drove in Quali with the old spec floor?!

Nobody knows what exact spec floor they drove with.

Teams did not have to publish changes as a result of the TD like they usually do at each race.

They may have switched to a floor that did not have the new side bits. But both floors will have had the TD change.

Time will tell at the next race. Im 70% confident Redbull have just had their wings clipped.

[Juzh]

Maybe they should put Lawson in that other seat, he could go faster

should put him in merc, ham slacking all weekend as well

And he's how far ahead of the two drivers driving one of the most dominant cars in history...?

Wow, it's always interesting to see how quickly the Ham-hate comes out.

You must not have seen a minute of singapore's footage to imply car was in any way dominant this week lol.

No hate, honestly I don't care if hamilton gets beaten by george, leclerc by sainz or whoever, wasn't even gonna mention it, but since the expected person just had to bring up a dumb remark a response was warranted.