TD018 2023 - clampdown on flexible wings

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Juzh
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in 8 days we'll know whether TDs killed rb19, until then I'm halfway reserving judgement, but today was bad.

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Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:38
in 8 days we'll know whether TDs killed rb19, until then I'm halfway reserving judgement, but today was bad.
The good news is that the others have committed to copying the RB :lol:

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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:41
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:38
in 8 days we'll know whether TDs killed rb19, until then I'm halfway reserving judgement, but today was bad.
The good news is that the others have committed to copying the RB :lol:
Everyone must have known which bits were super flexible aswell.

Suppose some people need a week of glory to celebrate - back to reality soon

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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:41
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:38
in 8 days we'll know whether TDs killed rb19, until then I'm halfway reserving judgement, but today was bad.
The good news is that the others have committed to copying the RB :lol:
Fugg... RB20 shows up with zero pods, continues to trounce. :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:41
Juzh wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:38
in 8 days we'll know whether TDs killed rb19, until then I'm halfway reserving judgement, but today was bad.
The good news is that the others have committed to copying the RB :lol:
The whole grid with unbalanced difficult to drive cars lol.

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Suzuka is going to favour McLaren and Mercedes, so it still won't be clear if TD affected Red bull. I expect McLaren to get pole and win there

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Mclaren is rumored to have brought a 4 tenths upgrade to Singapore. So RB may well be troubled by Mclaren in Suzuka owing to Mclaren's much more aggressive upgrades packages and Mclaren was already faster than RB in the high speed corners in Silverstone which far pre-dates any TDs.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:18
Did this TD break the RB19? What evidence has there been from si.ilar Street tracks this year that would conclude that the RB19 should not work well here?
There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.

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Peter Piper wrote:
GrizzleBoy wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:18
Did this TD break the RB19? What evidence has there been from si.ilar Street tracks this year that would conclude that the RB19 should not work well here?
There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.
Nonsense... Track was repaved and super smooth, probably deleted the article to not be embarrassed.

Japan might be back on form for them. They were so strong that nothing short of a miracle can clip them bad, but it wasn't Singapore bumpiness.

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dialtone wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 18:26
Peter Piper wrote:
GrizzleBoy wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:18
Did this TD break the RB19? What evidence has there been from si.ilar Street tracks this year that would conclude that the RB19 should not work well here?
There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.
Nonsense... Track was repaved and super smooth, probably deleted the article to not be embarrassed.

Japan might be back on form for them. They were so strong that nothing short of a miracle can clip them bad, but it wasn't Singapore bumpiness.
Possibly. It's really weird how it's just gone.

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dialtone wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 18:26
Peter Piper wrote:
GrizzleBoy wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:18
Did this TD break the RB19? What evidence has there been from si.ilar Street tracks this year that would conclude that the RB19 should not work well here?
There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.
Nonsense... Track was repaved and super smooth, probably deleted the article to not be embarrassed.

Japan might be back on form for them. They were so strong that nothing short of a miracle can clip them bad, but it wasn't Singapore bumpiness.
Incorrect info. The entire track wasn't resurfaced or repaved. Altered piece of track was the only new piece and everything else was as is. I haven't seen a single report that mentions the entire track having been repaved. The track is just normal city roads which is used on a daily basis which naturally deforms due to regular loads.

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dialtone wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 18:26
Peter Piper wrote:
GrizzleBoy wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:18
Did this TD break the RB19? What evidence has there been from si.ilar Street tracks this year that would conclude that the RB19 should not work well here?
There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.
Nonsense... Track was repaved and super smooth, probably deleted the article to not be embarrassed.

Japan might be back on form for them. They were so strong that nothing short of a miracle can clip them bad, but it wasn't Singapore bumpiness.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... driveable/

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Anyone who is paying attention can see how the RB drivers don't touch the kerbs if they can help it.

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randolf wrote:
dialtone wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 18:26
Peter Piper wrote: There was an interesting article on the-race about that, although I'm struggling to find it now. It basically blamed track bumpiness and ride-height tuning issues. Japan should be a return to form for them.
Nonsense... Track was repaved and super smooth, probably deleted the article to not be embarrassed.

Japan might be back on form for them. They were so strong that nothing short of a miracle can clip them bad, but it wasn't Singapore bumpiness.
Incorrect info. The entire track wasn't resurfaced or repaved. Altered piece of track was the only new piece and everything else was as is. I haven't seen a single report that mentions the entire track having been repaved. The track is just normal city roads which is used on a daily basis which naturally deforms due to regular loads.
Track was repaved entirely last year, also in part to help with porpoising.

Furthermore many drivers commented on smoothness in FP.

After all why would the rbr simulator return a high ride height but drivers feel like they can go lower if it's not because track is smoother than expected?