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Sky suggesting the upgrade was 3-4 tenths, which again highlights Oscar's decent performance this weekend. Up until his second lap was ruined in Q1 he was about that gap from Lando in Q and P.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 16:04If this race was our "Austria", it was a good one. Hopefully the team unlocks more potential in Japan and Qatar.
Piastri shows that the car had plenty of pace. To P7 from P17.
Some drivers stop improving but Sainz gets better and better, and such a nice guy.
Yeah, pure class and still underrated. I was very disappointed for McLaren to see him go to Ferrari but pleased for him. One of the smartest and most hardworking F1 drivers.
Great update. About what we expected.mwillems wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 16:39Sky suggesting the upgrade was 3-4 tenths, which again highlights Oscar's decent performance this weekend. Up until his second lap was ruined in Q1 he was about that gap from Lando in Q and P.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 16:04If this race was our "Austria", it was a good one. Hopefully the team unlocks more potential in Japan and Qatar.
Piastri shows that the car had plenty of pace. To P7 from P17.
I'm looking forward to seeing the end of the season.
I don't undestand what you get from "I told you so" posts at all. They did not show armchair experts in Zandvoort. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Nothing wrong in discussing options. Result based replies are useless.
The strategy calls as you well say, sometimes work, sometimes they don’t… But the reactions here and comments when they make the calls are definitely “Armchair Experts”… If people don’t realize that:Seerix wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 17:41I don't undestand what you get from "I told you so" posts at all. They did not show armchair experts in Zandvoort. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Nothing wrong in discussing options. Result based replies are useless.
The actual strategy on Lando's radio was - stay out if VSC, box if full SC. They were considering boxing after seeing both Mercs went it, but VCS ended meanwhile.
No this was different, Sainz saved the situation but the team didn't really have options.
true, it is a fine line, I was quite harsh on their Zandvoort one tho. I think there are still teething problems operationally that come with being at the front like we saw in Zandvoort but the team are improving, and like everything else about McLaren right now, looks on the up! Enjoy this one guys, Suzuka should be fun too.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 18:10The strategy calls as you well say, sometimes work, sometimes they don’t… But the reactions here and comments when they make the calls are definitely “Armchair Experts”… If people don’t realize that:Seerix wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023, 17:41I don't undestand what you get from "I told you so" posts at all. They did not show armchair experts in Zandvoort. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Nothing wrong in discussing options. Result based replies are useless.
The actual strategy on Lando's radio was - stay out if VSC, box if full SC. They were considering boxing after seeing both Mercs went it, but VCS ended meanwhile.
A) They have more data than anyone here would dream of having
B) They have tools that allow them to simulate permutations of outcome depending on the decision
C) There is not one person looking at the strategy, there is an “strategy team”, who uses A) and B) to make this decisions.
But around here, people watching a race on TV think they can make a better decision than the team
Will they get it wrong some times? Absolutely… Zandvoort was a matter of amount of rain, the amount of rain and duration was expected to be lower than it was, if their expectations (based on the information they had) would have been accurate, they would have been called geniuses… It didn’t pan out, it happens.
Funny thing is, if they take a risky gamble and it doesn’t work, they get blasted… If they take the more cautious approach, they get blasted for never taking risks… People will never be pleased I guess.