2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

[dialtone]

With the soft the snake of #Verstappen is galactic. We notice an error of #Leclerc at turn 1 and one of Max at the hairpin. A little "lean" power curve for #RedBull . #Ferrari anyway good in T2 #JapaneseGP

To me the lower engine mode is obvious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6nDVQIWAAA ... &name=orig

That's not power, that's more wing.

[AR3-GP]

With the soft the snake of #Verstappen is galactic. We notice an error of #Leclerc at turn 1 and one of Max at the hairpin. A little "lean" power curve for #RedBull . #Ferrari anyway good in T2 #JapaneseGP

To me the lower engine mode is obvious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6nDVQIWAAA ... &name=orig

The "error" of Max at the hairpin occurs on every single lap. Likely related to the weaknesses of the car.

I do like the translation. "the snake of Verstappen is galactic"

[dialtone]

This track will have Perez, Sargeant, Stroll exposed relative to their teammates. It is a very demanding track to extract the maximum from the car, especially for drivers lacking in confidence

Pretty spot on although the names picked imply lack of skill compared to team mate, but really is that and confidence at the same time, look at Piastri, Hamilton and Gasly with the red flag for example.

[Cs98]

Lol no my man... I love you to death but that has nothing to do with ERS deployment. There are many cases in which the telemetry is a bit weird like that. It's just not that precise unfortunately, to be clear my position is simply that Max indeed has more margin in that corner than shown in practice, but not due to engine mode. That speed is nowhere near critical speed and the top end of speed is mostly sustained by the ICE not by ERS.

You say the telemetry is "not precise" yet when the throttle % drops, the speed drops by total coincidence? I cannot take this argument seriously anymore.

Definitely low engine mode. Can't argue irrationality.

[AR3-GP]

With the soft the snake of #Verstappen is galactic. We notice an error of #Leclerc at turn 1 and one of Max at the hairpin. A little "lean" power curve for #RedBull . #Ferrari anyway good in T2 #JapaneseGP

To me the lower engine mode is obvious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6nDVQIWAAA ... &name=orig

That's not power, that's more wing.

ehem.


Happy to be of service.

[dialtone]

Are you folks serious?

You think 2-3kph top speed difference is because of engine mode? There’s 2 wings on the car, look at monza between the 2 Ferraris that just had front wing difference of a few clicks.

Do you even math?

Anyway… don’t really care, going to sleep, see you all tomorrow, same time.

[AR3-GP]

Are you folks serious?

You think 2-3kph top speed difference is because of engine mode? There’s 2 wings on the car, look at monza between the 2 Ferraris that just had front wing difference of a few clicks.

Do you even math?

Anyway… don’t really care, going to sleep, see you all tomorrow, same time.

RB pulled 5km/h out of their rear between Friday and Saturday in Zandvoort. You can expect the same tomorrow.

[dialtone]

Are you folks serious?

You think 2-3kph top speed difference is because of engine mode? There’s 2 wings on the car, look at monza between the 2 Ferraris that just had front wing difference of a few clicks.

Do you even math?

Anyway… don’t really care, going to sleep, see you all tomorrow, same time.

RB pulled 5km/h out of their rear between Friday and Saturday in Zandvoort. You can expect the same tomorrow.

It’s a cubic relationship with power man… is their lower engine mode like 3hp less?

Sleeping for real

[Sevach]

With the soft the snake of #Verstappen is galactic. We notice an error of #Leclerc at turn 1 and one of Max at the hairpin. A little "lean" power curve for #RedBull . #Ferrari anyway good in T2 #JapaneseGP

To me the lower engine mode is obvious

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6nDVQIWAAA ... &name=orig

They come out of the corners the same then lose a bit in higher gears, i think their ICE power is normal(or at least paired back similarly to the Ferrari) but they aren't using their energy deploy full beans.

[organic]

Nicked this from someone on twitter. Does this match up with other people's numbers?

*Alo's average should be 1.39.192



And some from elsewhere

[randolf]

Anyone have info about the prototype test tyres? Are they C1, C2, C3?

[organic]

Anyone have info about the prototype test tyres? Are they C1, C2, C3?

They're 2024 C2s. Should be slightly softer than current C2s

[Juzh]

Verstappen fp2 lap - crap exit to start the lap must have cost some laptime to start with, not much, but some. understeer is visible in some corners, protecting rears for the race? High speed is unmatched, as is speed under drs (so far)
https://streamable.com/la9zx5


leclerc fp2 lap - leclerc just went conservative into turn 1 because of traffic, no actual mistake. He said so on the radio on the cooldown, apparently he lost a tenth there because of that. car looks ok otherwise. Better traction than RB?
https://streamable.com/ibld25

[randolf]

Anyone have info about the prototype test tyres? Are they C1, C2, C3?

They're 2024 C2s. Should be slightly softer than current C2s

Thank you.

[Mr5in1]

Verstappen fp2 lap - crap exit to start the lap must have cost some laptime to start with, not much, but some. understeer is visible in some corners, protecting rears for the race? High speed is unmatched, as is speed under drs (so far)
https://streamable.com/la9zx5


leclerc fp2 lap - leclerc just went conservative into turn 1 because of traffic, no actual mistake. He said so on the radio on the cooldown, apparently he lost a tenth there because of that. car looks ok otherwise. Better traction than RB?
https://streamable.com/ibld25

Thanks for sharing this footage, I'm no expert at all I just thought the Red Bull had a better change of direction in the esses and a bit squirmish out of the hairpin.

I think the Ferrari lost a bit of time before degner 2 and on exit but looks to have a little more traction on exits.

Im just amazed how much speed they can take into spoon - I struggle with this corner on racing games!