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As it stands ferrari is faster on un-DRSed straights by quite a margin. Very rough estimate verstappen lost 4 tenths on full throttle over the lap. I'm curious to see whether this equalises tomorrow or if Fer's engine really is a rocketship of some sorts. Worth noting ferraris are usually fastest cars on straights for a while now.
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Agreed.

This weekend I would say RB are running less wing than Ferrari - the first time for a while that has been the case. Ferrari until recently have I think had to go lower on df to balance their diva car that could not generate enough front downforce to balance the higher rear wings... so that results in the higher top speeds at Zandvoort, Hungary etc

But yes let's see what happens with the speedtraces tomorrow. I think come quali RB and Ferrari will be equal on the straights

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[taperoo2k]

Good to see rivals are aware of what RB have been up to

The RB20 should be even more of a monster than the RB19. However don't count all
your chickens just yet. Mercedes might yet get on top of these regulations and McLaren
might pose a few problems for Red Bull.

[chrisc90]

Expected. If nobody had seen the RB floor in Monaco then you can bet nobody would come with similar for next year.

4month down the line and I bet nobody has managed to bring a RB style floor yet - and likely won’t

[Cs98]

As it stands ferrari is faster on un-DRSed straights by quite a margin. Very rough estimate verstappen lost 4 tenths on full throttle over the lap. I'm curious to see whether this equalises tomorrow or if Fer's engine really is a rocketship of some sorts. Worth noting ferraris are usually fastest cars on straights for a while now.

RB bleeding a lot of time relative to last year though on the straights. 3-4 tenths just looking at full throttle zones, adjusting for the lower wing level, probably more.

[Sieper]

If that is true, because I thought RB ran a big wing from the fast sector 1, but in fact, from the pictures it seems rather slim when compared to the others, we might be in for a dominant weekend.

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As it stands ferrari is faster on un-DRSed straights by quite a margin. Very rough estimate verstappen lost 4 tenths on full throttle over the lap. I'm curious to see whether this equalises tomorrow or if Fer's engine really is a rocketship of some sorts. Worth noting ferraris are usually fastest cars on straights for a while now.
https://i.imgur.com/505Jb9Q.png

In Fp1 the straightline performance was basically equal. could be rb just didn't step up the engine level for their quick laps in fp2

[dxpetrov]

It's well known thing that RB runs their engine lower than competition on Friday. Why is everybody still surprised about when it happens weekend after weekend. Expect at least 4-5 tenths deficit to regular Saturday FP3 mode.

[dialtone]

It's well known thing that RB runs their engine lower than competition on Friday. Why is everybody still surprised about when it happens weekend after weekend. Expect at least 4-5 tenths deficit to regular Saturday FP3 mode.

You folks have been repeating this as a mantra fer the last n races and guess what… came quali the speed deficit was still there. Your car is a monster in fast corners, if there’s a top speed difference it’s 90% aero, not engine. On acceleration it’s engine.

[AR3-GP]

It's well known thing that RB runs their engine lower than competition on Friday. Why is everybody still surprised about when it happens weekend after weekend. Expect at least 4-5 tenths deficit to regular Saturday FP3 mode.

RB have new PUs this weekend. Things are well in order. Folks will see soon enough.

[dxpetrov]

It's well known thing that RB runs their engine lower than competition on Friday. Why is everybody still surprised about when it happens weekend after weekend. Expect at least 4-5 tenths deficit to regular Saturday FP3 mode.

You folks have been repeating this as a mantra fer the last n races and guess what… came quali the speed deficit was still there. Your car is a monster in fast corners, if there’s a top speed difference it’s 90% aero, not engine. On acceleration it’s engine.

And where exactly did I say anything about the top speed?!

[AR3-GP]

GP and Max seem to be getting along well on the radio this weekend. The spotlight will turn to Perez's performance and whether or not his car is the same. They will need to sort him out overnight.

[dialtone]

It's well known thing that RB runs their engine lower than competition on Friday. Why is everybody still surprised about when it happens weekend after weekend. Expect at least 4-5 tenths deficit to regular Saturday FP3 mode.

You folks have been repeating this as a mantra fer the last n races and guess what… came quali the speed deficit was still there. Your car is a monster in fast corners, if there’s a top speed difference it’s 90% aero, not engine. On acceleration it’s engine.

And where exactly did I say anything about the top speed?!

When you comment about speed and the only difference is top speed, you are commenting on top speed.

[Cs98]

You folks have been repeating this as a mantra fer the last n races and guess what… came quali the speed deficit was still there. Your car is a monster in fast corners, if there’s a top speed difference it’s 90% aero, not engine. On acceleration it’s engine.

And where exactly did I say anything about the top speed?!

When you comment about speed and the only difference is top speed, you are commenting on top speed.

Top speeds often vary significantly from FP to Quali, only due to engine mode and deployment. At ~300kph power is still a big factor. Your initial comment is an oversimplification and not consistent with real data. For Suzuka we have the traces to compare with 2022 and it's plainly obvious RB isn't pushing the engine yet.

[AR3-GP]

RB could be in a bit of trouble in Las Vegas if the concerns about very low track temps come to fruition: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-t ... /10523464/

There will not be any sunlight to warm the track.