2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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emp wrote:
23 Sep 2023, 22:00
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23 Sep 2023, 20:39
Hammerfist wrote:
23 Sep 2023, 19:53
Actually most of his advantage is in sector 2. The difference in s1 is 2 tenths. And I said it looked to me, which means it’s not necessarily factual, just my opinion.
on these laps,
VER S1 30.725
PIA S1 31.173
0.448s delta
Very poor S1 from Piastri. Even in T7, where he had higher minimal speed than Max, he lost a lot on the exit and all the way through the following straight due to tighter compromised line, causing hesitation on the throttle. Max dropped more speed on purpose to take a wider straighter line through Dunlop. That all is very visible on the onboards.
Oscar S1 was a lot slower than Lando and his own S1 on the 2nd run, which was 30.952, Lando was still faster with 30.916, and in general faster than Oscar on S1 all weekend. There was a lot more pace in Mclaren.
Mate, remember what you wrote and tell me from your math where is that lot more pace that you think Mclaren had other then the difference in the S1 which was ~4 hundreds according to you: 30.952 - 30.916. Both drivers were slower on the 2nd run, who knows why, but there wasn't more pace in that car, as the results say. I think they (Mclaren) know better than an armchair expert, even on a technical forum, and they are happy with it. Just because you believe something doesn't make it real, sorry to say. The could've, would've, should've aren't arguments. Just move on and enjoy the sport.
Piastri's S1 on his best lap was 31.173. But on his other Q3 lap he set a 30.952, but then didn't nail the lap elsewhere, showing that there was more in the car.

Both McLaren drivers were not happy with their q3 laps and Oscar said he made mistakes in the easier parts of the lap.. so I think it's not unreasonable to say that the car could have been closer to the RB

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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organic wrote:
23 Sep 2023, 23:03
Piastri's S1 on his best lap was 31.173. But on his other Q3 lap he set a 30.952, but then didn't nail the lap elsewhere, showing that there was more in the car.
Potentially, yeah. Or he approached the lap differently, and cooked his tires in S1.

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Sep 2023, 19:33
organic wrote:
23 Sep 2023, 05:35
Alfa romeo look pretty fast
I hate to bring this up :wink: :lol:
Fool me 50 times.. shame on me

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Truly diabolical performance

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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What could the possible penalty be? DSQ?

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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It’s hammer time

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jambuka wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 04:25
It’s hammer time
What is the context of this :lol: .
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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can some one share the long run details for each team?

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organic wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 04:23
What could the possible penalty be? DSQ?

https://i.imgur.com/i7l8e8J.jpeg
A hefty fine i hear.

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:03
can some one share the long run details for each team?
Picture wasn't clear. Norris was the only top team to do a soft run. Hamilton did medium run. Both Ferraris did hard run. Max did long run on the prototype tyre

So it's not very comparative tbh

The only clear thing was that the degradation was very high

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Hammerfist wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:07
organic wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 04:23
What could the possible penalty be? DSQ?

https://i.imgur.com/i7l8e8J.jpeg
A hefty fine i hear.
What exactly is the violation? Is Williams not allowed to prepare a spare car for Sargeant? :wtf:
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organic wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:16
selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:03
can some one share the long run details for each team?
Picture wasn't clear. Norris was the only top team to do a soft run. Hamilton did medium run. Both Ferraris did hard run. Max did long run on the prototype tyre

So it's not very comparative tbh

The only clear thing was that the degradation was very high
Ferrari did a soft run in FP3

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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My starting tire predictions
VER-Med
PIA-soft
NOR-Med
LEC-Soft
PER-Soft
SAI-MED
HAM-MED
RUS-Soft
TSU-Soft
ALO-hard

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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organic wrote:
selvam_e2002 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:03
can some one share the long run details for each team?
Picture wasn't clear. Norris was the only top team to do a soft run. Hamilton did medium run. Both Ferraris did hard run. Max did long run on the prototype tyre

So it's not very comparative tbh

The only clear thing was that the degradation was very high
Ferrari did a soft run in fp3. Lighter on fuel but little deg.

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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AR3-GP wrote:
Hammerfist wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 05:07
organic wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 04:23
What could the possible penalty be? DSQ?

https://i.imgur.com/i7l8e8J.jpeg
A hefty fine i hear.
What exactly is the violation? Is Williams not allowed to prepare a spare car for Sargeant? :wtf:
FIA wants no problems on sunday.

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Yes unfortunately Logan is a walking safety car.
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