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Just_a_fan
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:59
napoleon1981 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:46
ringo wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:35

Yes just last week the RBR ans AT shenanigans were okay.
We would have to see the replays but something tells me Russel went into a closing space and hung around like he usually does.
It's not the first we see him do this.
But remember Hamilton must be blamed for something each race.
Hamilton ran him of track similar to verstappen running Hamilton off in Brazil. Seems like people are applying the same inconsistency in evaluating the incidents based on their fan bias as the stewards do.
Not a squeak now, back then the forum was being burned down. This is how it goes with fans, consistency usually is the first thing out the door.
And vice versa. Back then, lots of "the stewards didn't give a penalty so it's ok" and now it's "that should be a huge penalty!".

Of course, back in Brazil 21 some people were busy looking at non-existent rear wing issues instead of the drivers' behaviour.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Sieper
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 16:41
Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:59
napoleon1981 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:46


Hamilton ran him of track similar to verstappen running Hamilton off in Brazil. Seems like people are applying the same inconsistency in evaluating the incidents based on their fan bias as the stewards do.
Not a squeak now, back then the forum was being burned down. This is how it goes with fans, consistency usually is the first thing out the door.
And vice versa. Back then, lots of "the stewards didn't give a penalty so it's ok" and now it's "that should be a huge penalty!".

Of course, back in Brazil 21 some people were busy looking at non-existent rear wing issues instead of the drivers' behaviour.
You are straight out lying now. Nobody said it needs a huge penalty. In fact, I said it needs not (yes, according to the rules maybe) but for me the stewards looking at it was enough.

Just_a_fan
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 17:39
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 16:41
Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 15:59


Not a squeak now, back then the forum was being burned down. This is how it goes with fans, consistency usually is the first thing out the door.
And vice versa. Back then, lots of "the stewards didn't give a penalty so it's ok" and now it's "that should be a huge penalty!".

Of course, back in Brazil 21 some people were busy looking at non-existent rear wing issues instead of the drivers' behaviour.
You are straight out lying now. Nobody said it needs a huge penalty. In fact, I said it needs not (yes, according to the rules maybe) but for me the stewards looking at it was enough.
Don't accuse me of lying. A well-known Max fan has said that it should have had a penalty and that 5s isn't enough of a penalty.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Sieper
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 18:08
Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 17:39
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 16:41

And vice versa. Back then, lots of "the stewards didn't give a penalty so it's ok" and now it's "that should be a huge penalty!".

Of course, back in Brazil 21 some people were busy looking at non-existent rear wing issues instead of the drivers' behaviour.
You are straight out lying now. Nobody said it needs a huge penalty. In fact, I said it needs not (yes, according to the rules maybe) but for me the stewards looking at it was enough.
Don't accuse me of lying. A well-known Max fan has said that it should have had a penalty and that 5s isn't enough of a penalty.
Doubling down I see, I just read the whole thread (again) and nobody is saying “huge” penalty, or 5 seconds is not enough. There is exactly one poster who says a +5 seconds penalty was called for while the rest either thinks nothing happened, or just looking at it was enough (e.g. me and another poster).

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chrisc90
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 20:16
Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 19:36
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 18:08

Don't accuse me of lying. A well-known Max fan has said that it should have had a penalty and that 5s isn't enough of a penalty.
Doubling down I see, I just read the whole thread (again) and nobody is saying “huge” penalty, or 5 seconds is not enough. There is exactly one poster who says a +5 seconds penalty was called for while the rest either thinks nothing happened, or just looking at it was enough (e.g. me and another poster).
Intra-team battles/offences need to be dealt with the same as any other offence.
+5 seconds isnt enough still.
Ergo, give a large penalty.

You're welcome.
Since your quoting my posts you might aswell of included my name.

And nobody said I was calling for a Lewis penalty there really were they.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

Just_a_fan
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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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chrisc90 wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 20:18
Just_a_fan wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 20:16
Sieper wrote:
24 Sep 2023, 19:36


Doubling down I see, I just read the whole thread (again) and nobody is saying “huge” penalty, or 5 seconds is not enough. There is exactly one poster who says a +5 seconds penalty was called for while the rest either thinks nothing happened, or just looking at it was enough (e.g. me and another poster).
Intra-team battles/offences need to be dealt with the same as any other offence.
+5 seconds isnt enough still.
Ergo, give a large penalty.

You're welcome.
Since your quoting my posts you might aswell of included my name.

And nobody said I was calling for a Lewis penalty there really were they.
Didn't want to drag you in to a silly argument. :D
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

djones
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Re: 2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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2x WDC for Max, he did well to get second in the sprint.

It’s a shame about the safety cars but actually was pretty fun to watch. Well done Piastri.

Sevach
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Re: 2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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djones wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:12
2x WDC for Max, he did well to get second in the sprint.

It’s a shame about the safety cars but actually was pretty fun to watch. Well done Piastri.
LoL the saltyness.

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PlatinumZealot
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Re: 2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Congrats Max on your third(?) world championship. You got it on a silver platter but I'm hoping it won't be so easy for you next year!
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