2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

[basti313]

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Daniel will NOT replacing Checo any day now.
AlphaTauri has incurred tremendous costs, while it has dropped off tremendously in terms of performance.
The fashion brand AlphaTauri is not going to pump that much money into it.
Therefore, they have started looking for a very big sponsor for next year. Mentioned are Hugo Boss and Adidas. +/- 100 million!
That sponsor wants to see something in return.
Ricciardo who is always smiling and clowning around has a lot of followers and fans all over the world.
Liam is new so won't attract as many viewers. The new sponsor must have had a finger in the driver selection.
Ricciardo will just drive at SAT next season because they need him also for advertising and not at RBR.

Uuuhhh...sorry...but this is a stretch in assumptions based on nothing.
I am especially surprised by your take on sponsors/money...we know that for example Haas is running in nice plus each year....and AT did not pump more money into development or drivers. I do not see a money issue.

I think there are other things keeping Checo in the seat:
- You simply do not throw out the Nr.2 in WDC. They will keep him in the seat to secure this spot.
- They need to get points on AT. Although Lawson looks faster then Tsunoda, I would still put my bet on Ric/Tsu to get the necessary 10 points that may be enough to finish ahead of Haas and Alfa.
- Maybe there is a performance clause in his contract, but I doubt it pulls. Still it is better for both if they put him into spare role next year when sponsorship contracts are done.

He's 177 points behind Max, that is atrocious considering he's in the best car on the grid! He's finished.

Bottas was ever even close to being that bad in the Mercedes dominant years.

I agree.
But:
- wrong thread.
- does not matter, he is still 33 points ahead of Ham, so they will nurse him to 2nd place at the finish of this season.

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Tsunoda clearly getting matched by Lawson after a few races while he himself has had 3 years already. Not impressed to be honest

[djos]

Tsunoda clearly getting matched by Lawson after a few races while he himself has had 3 years already. Not impressed to be honest

To be fair, Yuki was pretty good in the race and clearly had more pace than Liam, he just couldn’t get by him.

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Tsunoda clearly getting matched by Lawson after a few races while he himself has had 3 years already. Not impressed to be honest

To be fair, Yuki was pretty good in the race and clearly had more pace than Liam, he just couldn’t get by him.

Yuki was ahead and in clean air for the entirety of stint 2 and didn't pull away. If you're the faster driver and get the undercut over your teammate at the first pitstops, you shouldn't be then losing position at the next round of pitstops >20 laps later.. unless of course the pace is roughly equal

Lawson also got the better of him on lap 1 when the two went wheel to wheel for the entire lap

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it was a bit odd to see them undercutting each other twice during the race. But yeah, looked like their pace was about equal. Yuki was quicker in the end, but that was on fresher tires

[Wouter]

Yuki vs Liam:

https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2023/gp/s9163 ... s/849-856/

[Rikhart]

Tsunoda clearly getting matched by Lawson after a few races while he himself has had 3 years already. Not impressed to be honest

Same here, I already think he is not as good as he appeared to be, just a middle of the road driver. That plus his poor emotional control and hot head does not bode well for his career.

[BMMR61]

Tsunoda clearly getting matched by Lawson after a few races while he himself has had 3 years already. Not impressed to be honest

Same here, I already think he is not as good as he appeared to be, just a middle of the road driver. That plus his poor emotional control and hot head does not bode well for his career.

Is there a downside to the Red Bull team $$$ that AT get, by way of how the RB driver pool get utilised? Gasly clearly didn't gel at Red Bull after a quite stellar time at AT/TR and was returned - fine. Albon was promoted for a longer spell than Gasly had endured but there was no room when he was discarded for Perez. Albon now looks a better all round package than Gasly but has been lost to the RB family. Now we're stuck with a guy who after nearly three whole seasons has, at best, settled down his worst tendencies, is being shaded by a 20 year old F1 rookie, and is beginning to look like his position is effectively that of a pay driver. Now I know there are going to be objections to this view but how much growth is there to come in the two drivers - Yuki after about 60 races, or Liam after 4 races? Suzuka provided the best real head to head look at the two and I think it's clear that Liam is not the finished article, his tyre knowledge has some way to go, as it is to be expected, and this was born out in the ebb and flow of the Japanese GP. Liam continues to surprise me with his raw pace as I didn't see this as a strength.

[djos]

Checo is definitely on the ropes!

https://apple.news/Ap0JiuOrhSlWO3Bz14oX6Fw

Daniel Riccardo is looking good to a return to an RBR seat for 24 IMO. And that would open the door for Liam to join AT.

[Wouter]

Checo is definitely on the ropes!

https://apple.news/Ap0JiuOrhSlWO3Bz14oX6Fw

Daniel Riccardo is looking good to a return to an RBR seat for 24 IMO. And that would open the door for Liam to join AT.

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Where do you read that? This is what Horner said in the article:
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“Checo is in the hot seat at the moment and will obviously be keen to extend [after 2024]; we’ll see how Daniel does;
we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role.”

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The only thing I see is, Lawson promised a drive in 2025.

https://lastwordonsports.com/motorsport ... -for-2025/

Red Bull is understood to have promised Liam Lawson a 2025 F1 seat in exchange for the Kiwi’s services as reserve driver next year.

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[djos]

Checo is definitely on the ropes!

https://apple.news/Ap0JiuOrhSlWO3Bz14oX6Fw

Daniel Riccardo is looking good to a return to an RBR seat for 24 IMO. And that would open the door for Liam to join AT.

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Where do you read that? This is what Horner said in the article:
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“Checo is in the hot seat at the moment and will obviously be keen to extend [after 2024]; we’ll see how Daniel does;
we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role.”

What part of “Checo is in the hot seat” followed by “we’ll see how Daniel does” was unclear?

[Wouter]

Checo is definitely on the ropes!

https://apple.news/Ap0JiuOrhSlWO3Bz14oX6Fw

Daniel Riccardo is looking good to a return to an RBR seat for 24 IMO. And that would open the door for Liam to join AT.

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Where do you read that? This is what Horner said in the article:
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“Checo is in the hot seat at the moment and will obviously be keen to extend [after 2024]; we’ll see how Daniel does;
we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role.”

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What part of “Checo is in the hot seat” followed by “we’ll see how Daniel does” was unclear?

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Horner is talking about AFTER 2024 and "we 'll see how Daniel does; we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see
what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role [in 2024 at AlphaTauri]".

Which part don't you understand? Horner talks about 2025 all the time.

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Will be a nice new name for the team

[djos]

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Where do you read that? This is what Horner said in the article:
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What part of “Checo is in the hot seat” followed by “we’ll see how Daniel does” was unclear?

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Horner is talking about AFTER 2024 and "we 'll see how Daniel does; we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see
what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role [in 2024 at AlphaTauri]".

Which part don't you understand? Horner talks about 2025 all the time.

If you believe that Checo will be driving for RedBull next year, I have a nice bridge to sell you.