2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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Re: 2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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search wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 13:51
wasn't Pirelli supposed to make an announcement one hour ago, by the way, or did I mix up the time zones?
Maybe it's worse than we feared...? :lol:
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Brazilian media said it was scheduled a reunion with team principals one hour ago.

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8 laps on soft and 13 lap stint 3 times on the medium wouldnt cover race distance? Youd be on 47 laps.
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chrisc90 wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 13:53
8 laps on soft and 13 lap stint 3 times on the medium wouldnt cover race distance? Youd be on 47 laps.
oh yeah, you're completely right, I somehow mixed things up there. Would need to be 16-17 lap stints on the medium indeed then (which is not possible for some, like Hamilton, for example)

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If the Pirelli thing comes in, and teams opt for the 3 stopper - which they will....you can rule out any tyre thats done 7 laps or more in used condition.

I believe a used tyre will only be good for 19racing laps. Given the extra 2 laps for in/out lap, and your 1 hot lap, which is 3 laps.

14.75lap equal stints, since you cant do .75 of a lap without crossing your allowance, the stint window is 14laps in equal proportions.

so 19 laps can be your theoretical max stint on a used tyre. 20laps on a new tyre.

To do a 3 stopper, you need a used tyre to be of 5 laps? of max age before you drop into a 4 stop strategy. That writes off a LOT of used tyres for a lot of drivers.

19 allowed laps on a used tyre (unless you have a tyre with 2 laps on it - which some drivers do)
14 laps minimum to commit to a 3 stopper
leaves you with a used tyre of a max age of 5laps?

Unless you can offset a extra lap on your new tyre, but then your only talking 2 laps at most given the new tyre will do 1 lap more life wise.

Any tyre with more than 6laps ager (7 or above) cant realistically be used in the GP

Which SHOULD leave the following allocations.
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Limit of 18 laps on each new tyre set!

https://x.com/tgruener/status/1710991479072588258?s=20

FIA has set a limit of max 18 laps for new tyre sets in the race today. That means 3 pit stops will be mandatory for each driver. If a driver goes over the limit he will be black flagged.

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This weekend is a complete farce.

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One can only assume that a used will be even less then?
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Formula One is increasingly a --- show, this is just unbelievable to me. Just for this I would cancel the contract with this tyre supplier.

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Can we just have 3 sprint races instead

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chrisc90 wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 14:22
One can only assume that a used will be even less then?
They clearly have said "new" tyre set, so i assume they'll count total laps on a set.

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What is more concerning that this probably means the track limit modification didn't really help. Sprint was 19 laps, they've most likely analyzed those tyres and saw that 18 laps is the limit.

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CaribouBread wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 14:18
Limit of 18 laps on each new tyre set!

https://x.com/tgruener/status/1710991479072588258?s=20

FIA has set a limit of max 18 laps for new tyre sets in the race today. That means 3 pit stops will be mandatory for each driver. If a driver goes over the limit he will be black flagged.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Something feels off with that tweet at present.



There isnt enough journo's tweeting the outcome of the meeting for me to have confidence in it. Normally everyone will jump on it, albert fabrega, chris medland, andy benson etc. Heard nothing from them yet
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CaribouBread wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 14:26
What is more concerning that this probably means the track limit modification didn't really help. Sprint was 19 laps, they've most likely analyzed those tyres and saw that 18 laps is the limit.
Sprint was basically 12 green flag laps :lol: :lol: :lol:
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