2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[FittingMechanics]

We have (laps remaining):
18 lap hard
18 lap medium
14 lap medium
13 lap medium

We could race on medium and hard.

[LionsHeart]

We have (laps remaining):
18 lap hard
18 lap medium
14 lap medium
13 lap medium

We could race on medium and hard.

Yeah, good. That's about what I've been calculating for myself.

[mwillems]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

[mwillems]

[LionsHeart]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

After yesterday's sprint where the soft showed very well in the first few laps, I'm not sure anyone will choose the softest tires today. But it will be interesting to see if someone takes the risk.

[mwillems]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

After yesterday's sprint where the soft showed very well in the first few laps, I'm not sure anyone will choose the softest tires today. But it will be interesting to see if someone takes the risk.

No me neither, I was being polite but it seems like suicide, but you never know. I've said it before, not all crazies are on the Ferrari pit wall.

[LionsHeart]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

After yesterday's sprint where the soft showed very well in the first few laps, I'm not sure anyone will choose the softest tires today. But it will be interesting to see if someone takes the risk.

No me neither, I was being polite but it seems like suicide, but you never know. I've said it before, not all crazies are on the Ferrari pit wall.

I remember these words

[mwillems]

A mandatory limit of 18 laps per tyre has been imposed

[Szabi1112]

Does anybody has information about how the hard tyres works in this circuit? Having been looked sprint race everybody will avoid using that at the start.

[Ben1980]

Both starting on the dirty side, we saw the softs were quick at the start. Could be a risk but may be worth a gamble.

[FittingMechanics]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

Don't think so. McLaren can run 36 laps on new hard/soft and then a 14 lap on used medium. This leaves about 7 laps (or so). Maybe less - depending on how the laps are counted.

[mwillems]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

Don't think so. McLaren can run 36 laps on new hard/soft and then a 14 lap on used medium. This leaves about 7 laps (or so). Maybe less - depending on how the laps are counted.

There's a Mandatory 18 lap limit on the tyres, they can't do 36 laps on a Hard and Soft, or am I missing something?

if the New Hards AND mediums can do the 18 laps, that's 36, 21 laps left to run then we'd need the next used mediums to do 15 laps? Even then can used softs do 6 laps? Will mediums stretch 18 laps? I don't know enough about these tyres.

Someone might be able to squeeze in a set of softs somewhere, but it would be the few that have some new softs, but the chance to use softs looks reasonably marginal to me for Mclaren at least. But we will see in a few hours.

[mwillems]

Sorry, should have posted this earlier

https://www.planetf1.com/news/pirelli-l ... y-qatar-gp

[mwillems]

For those that can't be ars*d with links lol

[FittingMechanics]

It'll be interesting to see who runs softs, it would commit them to a 4 stop, no?

Don't think so. McLaren can run 36 laps on new hard/soft and then a 14 lap on used medium. This leaves about 7 laps (or so). Maybe less - depending on how the laps are counted.

There's a Mandatory 18 lap limit on the tyres, they can't do 36 laps on a Hard and Soft, or am I missing something?

if the New Hards AND mediums can do the 18 laps, that's 36, 21 laps left to run then we'd need the next used mediums to do 15 laps? Even then can used softs do 6 laps? Will mediums stretch 18 laps? I don't know enough about these tyres.

Someone might be able to squeeze in a set of softs somewhere, but it would be the few that have some new softs, but the chance to use softs looks reasonably marginal to me for Mclaren at least. But we will see in a few hours.

Sorry, I miswrote, I meant hard/medium. They can run 18 on new hard and 18 on new medium. That is about 36 or 37 (depending when the lap is counted).

That leaves 20 or 21.

Used tyres are allowed to do 20 laps - both Lando and Oscar have used sets with 6 and 7 laps on them. This means they can do another 14 or 13 laps on them. So they can easily do 3 stops with sets they have. Or they can choose to run a short soft stint.

Mediums will do 18 laps - Lando and Oscar used 3 old mediums in the sprint - putting them to 22 laps total. Of course there were safety car laps but don't think it matters that much. The tyre did not fall apart due to degradation, it is that Pirelli sees risk of tyre failure.

I think a bunch of drivers on soft in the sprint were on used soft. I don't have data to prove it but I think any Q3 runner starting on soft did not have a new soft. Their tyres did degrade but I think they showed benefit at race start and on restarts. Both of which may happen today.

If I was McLaren strategy team I would put at least one car on a soft at race start - hoping they can get a jump at the start and then switch to other tyres when Safety car comes. One thing to note today is that usual strategy of using safety car to change tyres will be very problematic - you will need to stretch your stints long so if you shorten one stint by 5 laps, you may be forced to take another pitstop.