2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Monaco 2022 quali sends its regards

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Promoting Daniel already in 2024? He needs to show some stellar performance in that AT now to justify that promotion IMO. Though with Lawson pretty much outperforming Tsunoda I can't pretend to be excited about Yuki either. Daniel probably has a higher ceiling, is a safer pick in terms of team dynamics and mistes, and is more marketable. But you don't know if you'll get RB Daniel or McLaren Daniel.

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This is how Perez is. He was mad because "the rookie Sirotkin" was faster. :roll: Perez just straight turned into Sirotkin.
A moment before he pushed Ocon into the wall! Singapore GP 2018.

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djos wrote:
13 Oct 2023, 12:34
Wouter wrote:
13 Oct 2023, 12:20
Is this a soft announcement? Interesting choise for a picture! :D
That Perez rumour from that Telmex man seems to be true.

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:D Subtle! :mrgreen:

And Daniel is in full RedBull kit, not AT!

Ps, Is that an old photo? It looks like there’s an Aston Martin logo on their shirts.
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Why did they posted Daniel from AlphaTauri and not Max and Perez from RBR like one of these for example??

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I don’t think their Twitter manager has any insight into future driver line ups at RB. Daniel Ricciardo is a RB driver and it’s a picture of Spa alongside announcement that the circuit has been renewed.

Any other conclusions are premature imo.
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I don’t think there is a Perez&Max Spa picture and there is this very well known one of Max and Daniel.

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Former Jaguar (--->RBR) driver, now Brazilian stock car racer, Luciano Burti has today opened up
about what is going on at Red Bull and RBR.

Translated from Portuguese.


RBR is giving Pérez an ultimatum: if he loses his vice-presidential position, Ricciardo will take over in 2024

Even with a renewed contract, the Mexican is at serious risk of leaving the team.
The move would open up a vacancy for Liam Lawson at AlphaTauri. Helmut Marko, consultant, is also in the spotlight

RBR informed Perez: "Try to secure second place in the last five races this year, otherwise you will be out of the team next season."
If he fails to meet the target, his replacement has already been defined: it will be 34-year-old Australian Daniel Ricciardo.
Since the Miami GP in May, when Verstappen humiliated his teammate on the track, the Mexican has never been able to perform in the same way.

Political struggle: Helmut Marko in the spotlight

However, the Sergio Pérez issue is not the only political movement going on behind the scenes at champion RBR. In fact, the team has been on the boil since the death of Dietrich Mateschitz, co-founder of the energy drink maker, last October.

Tension between Christian Horner and Helmut Marko, Didi Mateschitz's former right-hand man , has long existed. But the struggle for power increased with the death of the tycoon.
And Horner has been trying to get rid of Marko for some time to take control of the group's Formula One operation as a whole. :shock:
The English chief executive already has a big influence at AlphaTauri: he participated in most decisions about drivers and the change of directors - including the arrival of new CEO Peter Bayer, former executive director of the International Automobile Federation (FIA).
Horner even wants to get rid of Yuki Tsunoda.

The former Austrian racing driver's future within the Red Bull group will be determined at a company board meeting this week.

For the first time in many years, since the brand's entry into Formula One in 2005, Marko is at serious risk of losing his position within the energy drink manufacturer's teams in motorsport's biggest category.
And if it depends on Christian Horner, the veteran's future will be far from RBR and AlphaTauri. Even the current champion is not immune to political crises.
Not everything is rosy in the kingdom of Milton Keynes.

https://ge.globo.com/motor/formula-1/no ... 2024.ghtml
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organic wrote:
13 Oct 2023, 14:04
Monaco 2022 quali sends its regards
There are exceptions to every rule.
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Wouter wrote:
13 Oct 2023, 14:28
This is how Perez is. He was mad because "the rookie Sirotkin" was faster. :roll: Perez just straight turned into Sirotkin.
A moment before he pushed Ocon into the wall! Singapore GP 2018.

Yep, those sort of dirty tactics are why I’ve never liked him.
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Has RB decided on drivers for the mandatory rookie free practice runs? Lawson no longer qualifies. There are 5 rounds left. Surely they have to address this...
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AR3-GP wrote:
14 Oct 2023, 02:26
Has RB decided on drivers for the mandatory rookie free practice runs? Lawson no longer qualifies. There are 5 rounds left. Surely they have to address this...
There are loads of F2 guys that could do it.. I think things point to Hadjar doing the alpha tauri rookie sessions whilst Iwasa is likely to do the junior sessions for RB. If not Iwasa then I reckon Maloney

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Officially Confirmed; Daniel is back for COTA:

https://apple.news/Aaw3wnG0eTcOITRYy92EyIQ
Daniel Ricciardo is coming back for the United States Grand Prix on Oct. 22 in Austin he announced Friday in Nashville.
Checo better get his crap together, or Daniel will be taking his seat!
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13 Oct 2023, 13:34
Long, detailed AMuS article on Perez's struggles at RB

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... ementiert/

Also states that at some point Perez requested to drive the pre-barcelona rb19. Did Perez forget that he was crushed at Miami as well?

Some excerpts
Much worse, according to Perez, was a new underbody that Red Bull brought to Barcelona. It made the Red Bull faster, but not Perez: "The driving characteristics no longer suited my driving style. The moment came again when I had to think more about how to drive the car to be fast." This also happened to him in the 2021 and 2022 seasons.

Red Bull's problem child doesn't want to blame the engineers at all: "They bring upgrades to make the car faster. It did get faster. It's just that I had a harder time driving the car. Then you have to adapt. I didn't do it as fast as I should have." His request to be allowed to drive the pre-Barcelona specification again could not be granted. No team brings two different cars to the start.
Everyone at Red Bull agrees that Perez is still the equally good race driver they bought in three years ago. His current problem is in his head.
Highlights how the two parties view his struggles from different angles. Perez from the pov of the car changing and the team from the pov of Perez's head being the issue

Full translation:

https://pastebin.com/d6AVVdE1
Thanks for the post. Looking at how awful Perez season has gone since Barca I'd reconsider if I was RB about not taking the pre Barca spec for Sergio to the US-Mex-Braz tripleheader

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Alexf1 wrote:
14 Oct 2023, 09:54
Thanks for the post. Looking at how awful Perez season has gone since Barca I'd reconsider if I was RB about not taking the pre Barca spec for Sergio to the US-Mex-Braz tripleheader
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And then what after this year? Next year after an update bring every time two different cars to the track ?
They must be crazy to do that. Perez has to addapt to an update car and he can't. That is his problem.
Anyway, Perez is out after this saison.
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Marko was the go between for the team and Mateschitz, so he doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. I strongly suspect his tenure is coming to an end after this season. He's certainly not Horner's man.