2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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RB will be hoping the Mercs had less fuel...


Perez looks decent again.
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sandbagging.com

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:39
RB will be hoping the Mercs had less fuel...
They obviously did. On sprint weekends Merc tend to run with sprint fuel in FP while RB almost always do high fuel load fp runs

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Sandbags are clearly out given those times.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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B have gone against the grain with the RB setup this weekend. Going a lot higher on downforce than usual and seem to be weaker in the higher speed and stronger in low speed. Maybe applying learnings gained from Singapore and going in a different direction this time: running the car higher and softer to deal with the bumps?

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Not sandbags, Mercedes does a sprint race simulation, redbull a first stint main race sim. Like organic was saying.

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organic wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:43
B have gone against the grain with the RB setup this weekend. Going a lot higher on downforce than usual and seem to be weaker in the higher speed and stronger in low speed. Maybe applying learnings gained from Singapore and going in a different direction this time: running the car higher and softer to deal with the bumps?
High deg, protecting the tires?

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Sieper wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:45
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:43
B have gone against the grain with the RB setup this weekend. Going a lot higher on downforce than usual and seem to be weaker in the higher speed and stronger in low speed. Maybe applying learnings gained from Singapore and going in a different direction this time: running the car higher and softer to deal with the bumps?
High deg, protecting the tires?
Yeah for sure this setup with the high downforce will protect the rears very nicely. Its main weakness / drawback would be qualifying where they might struggle in sector 1

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Werent the RBs fastest in the middle sector though?
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chrisc90 wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:47
Werent the RBs fastest in the middle sector though?
A few hundredths off Merc

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organic wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:46
Sieper wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:45
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:43
B have gone against the grain with the RB setup this weekend. Going a lot higher on downforce than usual and seem to be weaker in the higher speed and stronger in low speed. Maybe applying learnings gained from Singapore and going in a different direction this time: running the car higher and softer to deal with the bumps?
High deg, protecting the tires?
Yeah for sure this setup with the high downforce will protect the rears very nicely. Its main weakness / drawback would be qualifying where they might struggle in sector 1
When have RB ever struggled with the rears though? If anything I still accuse this car of being too front limited.
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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:56
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 20:46
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20 Oct 2023, 20:45


High deg, protecting the tires?
Yeah for sure this setup with the high downforce will protect the rears very nicely. Its main weakness / drawback would be qualifying where they might struggle in sector 1
When have RB ever struggled with the rears though? If anything I still accuse this car of being too front limited.
True! :D I guess this is a circuit where the rear tyres are overheating even over 1 lap though. So you can find laptime in both race and quali from protecting the rears

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Max made a couple of errors on his fastest lap. Significant error - oversteer moment - coming out of T10 cost 1-2 tenths on run to T11


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20 Oct 2023, 21:15
Max made a couple of errors on his fastest lap. Significant error - oversteer moment - coming out of T10 cost 1-2 tenths on run to T11

He also missed T1 to the extent that I thought he would abort the lap.

There are driving style differences, and then there's this...

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Hamilton's fast lap for reference:

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RB are running the car a lot higher than usual. Maybe just to be tentative for FP1 but also to manage bottoming. Compared to other teams and how they ran the rb19 in other rounds, it is very high

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