2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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djos
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Very true. Thankfully AT’s updates didn’t backfire on them like AM’s did. Bringing updates to a sprint weekend with only one practice session to understand them is risky.
"In downforce we trust"

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Yeah car is a fair bit different to when Dan last drove it too. Starting in front of Alonso and Albon too.

Nice words from Yuki too and the team also seemed happy so far.

https://scuderia.alphatauri.com/en/us-gp-qualifying/

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What a great second debut for Ricciardo this year in the AT04 compared to Yuki! #-o
With all his experience in F1, he is much slower than Liam Lawson who took over from Ricciardo as a rookie.
Liam adapted to the car very quickly and immediately drove good sessions. And Ricciardo with his eternal big smile?
He was brought into SAT as the great savior. Well, when are we going to see that?
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Wouter wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 09:49
What a great second debut for Ricciardo this year in the AT04 compared to Yuki! #-o
With all his experience in F1, he is much slower than Liam Lawson who took over from Ricciardo as a rookie.
Liam adapted to the car very quickly and immediately drove good sessions. And Ricciardo with his eternal big smile?
He was brought into SAT as the great savior. Well, when are we going to see that?
He's just returned from injury and has had ONE practise session prior to Qually! Seriously, You can't expect him to be beating Yuki immediately under those circumstances. Not to mention that Yuki has experienced the progression of the car for the last 3 races and has first-hand experience with the 2-3 iterations AT have brought since Daniel's accident.

Daniel is almost starting from scratch!

How about being a little more rational, and a little less keyboard warrior?
"In downforce we trust"

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Wouter wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 09:49
What a great second debut for Ricciardo this year in the AT04 compared to Yuki! #-o
With all his experience in F1, he is much slower than Liam Lawson who took over from Ricciardo as a rookie.
Liam adapted to the car very quickly and immediately drove good sessions. And Ricciardo with his eternal big smile?
He was brought into SAT as the great savior. Well, when are we going to see that?
Sorry but this is complete BS and borderline trolling. Ricciardo is leading the head to head 2-1 over Yuki in races and qualli before this weekend. He just again returned after breaking a bone in his hand in 7 places. Besides that there is still the sprint and main race to go at Austin anyway. Yuki and the team are happy to have Dan back for various reasons as mentioned in the team report. Yuki mentioned his feedback in helping setup the car so far.

"It’s good to have Daniel back. It’s not easy to have one Free Practice session and immediately go into qualifying, because there’s not a lot of time to get up to speed, but he did a good job and has already given good feedback, and that’s why we were able to finish in P11.”

Lawson while having done a solid job, has generally been 2-3 tenths off Yuki and only really beat him by way of SC in Zandvoort and where Yuki dnf'd through no fault of his own at Monza and Singapore. The gap also widened at Qatar between them both where Yuki beat him in qualli and race. So no Lawson while doing a good job hasn't been better than Ricciardo against Yuki. Ricciardo also hasn't even had a chance to race the heavily upgraded car yet either unlike Yuki and Lawson.

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Let's just not jump the gun

It's been 1 competitive session.. if every time Yuki or ricciardo outqualifies, outscores the other it's going to be a long 2024

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Nice for Dan to bounce straight back after the broken hand and very little running time and finish ahead of Yuki in the sprint qualli and race. Nice pass on Stroll too. Said he still feels a little rusty so will be good for the run.

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runningmanz wrote:
22 Oct 2023, 04:32
Nice for Dan to bounce straight back after the broken hand and very little running time and finish ahead of Yuki in the sprint qualli and race. Nice pass on Stroll too. Said he still feels a little rusty so will be good for the run.
The car isn't phenomenal here which is a bit unfortunate. But makes things a bit easier for Daniel on his first weekend back

Yuki may prove me wrong tomorrow though. Out of the remaining races I think Brazil bodes well. The car has a lot of downforce now!

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the pace looked alright, I think. Especially towards the end of the stint, when they were quicker than the Alpines.

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So it seems the car has good downforce now and we can look after the tyres
better hence why we were catching Alpine at the end of the sprint. Hopefully will work to our advantage in the race.

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Nice. Helped a bit by Ocon, Piastri and Alonso, but whatever. Nice way to double the points!

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runningmanz wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 14:34
Wouter wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 09:49
What a great second debut for Ricciardo this year in the AT04 compared to Yuki! #-o
With all his experience in F1, he is much slower than Liam Lawson who took over from Ricciardo as a rookie.
Liam adapted to the car very quickly and immediately drove good sessions. And Ricciardo with his eternal big smile?
He was brought into SAT as the great savior. Well, when are we going to see that?
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Sorry but this is complete BS and borderline trolling.
Ricciardo is leading the head to head 2-1 over Yuki in races and qualli before this weekend. He just again returned after breaking a bone in his hand in 7 places.
Besides that there is still the sprint and main race to go at Austin anyway.
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djos wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 09:57
Seriously, You can't expect him to be beating Yuki immediately under those circumstances.

How about being a little more rational, and a little less keyboard warrior?
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Well, we just had the main race in Austin and Ricciardo didn't beat Yuki. In fact, the opposite has happened.
Yuki on the M-H-M-S (3 stop) is no less than 38 seconds faster than Ricciardo on the M-H-M (2 stop).
So actually 63 seconds faster if you add a pit stop for Ricciardo!
Yuki drove great as always.=D> =D> =D> With the fastest lap ---> 2 points in the pocket!
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Ricciardo had damage and ran much of the race with a lot of debris lodged in his car

https://i.imgur.com/q5sSPxZ.mp4

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organic wrote:
22 Oct 2023, 23:53
Ricciardo had damage and ran much of the race with a lot of debris lodged in his car

https://i.imgur.com/q5sSPxZ.mp4
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On which laps was that? I have watched and compared their laptimes during the whole race. I am just curious.
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Wouter wrote:
23 Oct 2023, 00:04
organic wrote:
22 Oct 2023, 23:53
Ricciardo had damage and ran much of the race with a lot of debris lodged in his car

https://i.imgur.com/q5sSPxZ.mp4
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On which laps was that? I have watched and compared their laptimes during the whole race. I am just curious.
Lap 47. When he stopped for the soft tyre (making his 2nd stop).

Contrary to what you've written, Ricciardo was actually on a 1-stopper but when it became clear that the 1-stopper was going to result in an absolutely dire result they boxed (far too late for a regular 2-stopper strategy) just to give time to Daniel running on low fuel with the soft tyre

OTOH Tsunoda's actual strategy was M-H-M boxing on lap 17 on the first stint which was probably the quickest way to run the grand Prix considering what the frontrunners did, and AT boxed him for softs right at the end because they had a pitstop gap and could get an extra point. Not to say Yuki didn't drive brilliantly - he did - but his strategy was perfect making the direct performance comparison to ricciardo useless

There are a lot of narratives being pushed in this thread and it's tiresome to have to debunk them every session