2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[IntrinsicVoid]

Either it’s:
- Noo, but Mercedes era was more dominant and any other team couldn’t stand chance in qualy nor the race. The dominance level was just unbelievable
- They raised the height to the moon and still obliterated the field and this is due their homework being done after complaining to the teacher not giving proper challenge to the class.

It’s obvious I’m being salty and I admit, but jesus sometimes people here act 1:1 like in the Mercedes dominance era


Congratz to Max.

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Second race running where Max is running less front wing angle than Perez.

Qatar:

Red Bull starts with different load on front wing, Max Verstappen more unloaded than Checo Perez.

https://x.com/GiulyDuchessa/status/1710 ... 39455?s=20

Max Qatar race



Perez Qatar race



Max COTA sprint



Perez COTA sprint



pics from motorsport.nextgen-auto.com

[AR3-GP]

What is the reasoning for this? It's not like Perez prefers more oversteer. Are they just trying to dull some of the rotation from the mechanical setup?

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What is the reasoning for this? It's not like Perez prefers more oversteer. Are they just trying to dull some of the rotation from the mechanical setup?

My opinion is that it's to help Perez with confidence on turn-in with a more positive feeling. I think the turn-in has been his main issue with the RB19 if you consider weekends like Australia and Monaco. He's also said lately it's the thing he dislikes the most about the car in an interview

It can't just be Max's side of the garage running low wing to protect the rears as it happened @ Qatar as well where the rear tyre deg is not the issue

[AR3-GP]

What is the reasoning for this? It's not like Perez prefers more oversteer. Are they just trying to dull some of the rotation from the mechanical setup?

My opinion is that it's to help Perez with confidence on turn-in with a more positive feeling. I think the turn-in has been his main issue with the RB19 if you consider weekends like Australia and Monaco. He's also said lately it's the thing he dislikes the most about the car in an interview

It can't just be Max's side of the garage running low wing to protect the rears as it happened @ Qatar as well where the rear tyre deg is not the issue

What's interesting is despite the wing difference, identical top speeds:

So Perez had the better PUs all season? That will not be popular.

[Juzh]

It will be between ham/nor/ver. Hamilton and Norris have near identical pace. Norris overtook Sainz on lap 10 and was 10.2s behind hamilton at that stage, at the end of the race it was 9.3s between them. Unclear how much they were pushing.

Norris likely hurt his tires a bit fighting Sainz with several failed attempts so I do think he has a little bit more in it but not enough in a time trial.

Also I couldn't help but notice that Mercedes is simply helpless on the straights here which will be an advantage for overtaking both tomorrow.

I checked both Ham and Nor onboards and it seems both were pushing hard, so no cruising involved for either of them. I think time gap staying more or less constant between them is quite genuine all things considered, however Hamilton's tyres were gone on the last few laps, whereas norris' weren't. Hamilton was losing 1s in traction zones all around the track and in particular in T11. This bodes well for the race as I except him to be a sitting duck after 15 laps.

[Cs98]

What is the reasoning for this? It's not like Perez prefers more oversteer. Are they just trying to dull some of the rotation from the mechanical setup?

My opinion is that it's to help Perez with confidence on turn-in with a more positive feeling. I think the turn-in has been his main issue with the RB19 if you consider weekends like Australia and Monaco. He's also said lately it's the thing he dislikes the most about the car in an interview

It can't just be Max's side of the garage running low wing to protect the rears as it happened @ Qatar as well where the rear tyre deg is not the issue

What's interesting is despite the wing difference, identical top speeds:

So Perez had the better PUs all season? That will not be popular.

https://i.postimg.cc/FHqqdwS1/image.png

Front wing has minimal effect on drag. It's 99% balance.

[TimW]

Second race running where Max is running less front wing angle than Perez.

Qatar:

Red Bull starts with different load on front wing, Max Verstappen more unloaded than Checo Perez.

https://x.com/GiulyDuchessa/status/1710 ... 39455?s=20

Max Qatar race

https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ce/084.jpg

Perez Qatar race

https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ce/005.jpg

Max COTA sprint

https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ct/348.jpg

Perez COTA sprint

https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ct/375.jpg

pics from motorsport.nextgen-auto.com

I don't see any less front wing for Max in those photos. If anything, Max appears to be running more front wing. But that can easily be due to slightly different view angles.

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I don't see any less front wing for Max in those photos. If anything, Max appears to be running more front wing. But that can easily be due to slightly different view angles.

Look at the highlighted area. It's quite obvious and it's not just me saying it: Mark Hughes of the race has picked up on it this weekend as well and written about it in one of his latest articles.

[marcel171281]

I don't see any less front wing for Max in those photos. If anything, Max appears to be running more front wing. But that can easily be due to slightly different view angles.

Look at the highlighted area. It's quite obvious and it's not just me saying it: Mark Hughes of the race has picked up on it this weekend as well and written about it in one of his latest articles.

https://i.imgur.com/87bWkym.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/ubNBImy.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/3hALVbJ.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/8kOEqJ4.jpeg

If anything, this picture shows Verstappen has the more loaded front wing. Assuming the part connected to the nose cose is identical, you can see the flap on Verstappens car is higer relative to that than the flap on Perez' car.

But different angles, different speeds.

Are a couple of clicks extra on the FW visible on random pictures? I doubt it very much.

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Red Bull signed Perez to a two-year deal last season. Horner said afterwards the contract “locks out the seat unless he absolutely doesn’t deliver for whatever reason in 2023 or beginning of ’24, for example.”

Horner denied Perez’s place in the team will be under threat if he does not secure the team’s first drivers championship one-two.

“There’s no pre-mandate like that,” he said. “We’ve never finished first and second in a championship, we finished first and third a few times with Mark [Webber] and Sebastian [Vettel], we finished it last year with Max and Checo.

"With this car, it would be fantastic in such a season that we’ve had, if we could finish first and second. But there’s no pre-mandate on Checo that you have to finish second or you won’t be driving the car next year. That’s never been discussed.”

https://www.racefans.net/2023/10/22/per ... ip-horner/

[Wouter]

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Huh.. it says that RB are going to do both of their rookie sessions at the same event, with Hadjar getting the other session

In an unusual move, Red Bull is planning to deploy both of its mandatory rookie sessions at the same event, with F2 driver Isack Hadjar also driving at the Yas Marina track.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/jake- ... /10536388/

So potentially there will be Hadjar and Dennis in the Rb19 in FP1 at AD?

[Juzh]

Verstappen's car was visibly understeery in some corners, mainly T13 and T20, almost certainly to protect the rears.

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Was very close with Merc here thanks to the bumps.

They'll be a challenge at Mexico as well.

P6 to P1 in a car that wasn't much quicker than the Merc is mighty impressive though. Won on strategy really.