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[Luscion]

[AR3-GP]

What is he trying to say here?

James Allison clarified it quite succinctly on the previous page.

[AR3-GP]

[chrisc90]

That’s a little confusing. What’s he trying to say? It doesn’t tally up.

The lower you run your car - the more performance you get. Ground effect basics that.

[dans79]

What is he trying to say here?

If you spend much time on twitter, you will see that a great deal of people have no clue what a skid block actually is.

I saw some ridiculous post yesterday saying thats skid blocks are a major differentiator in car performance. That comment alone shows a complete lack of knowledge of what a skid block is or how it is used.

[Luscion]

[chrisc90]

How does he know that other teams were 1mm different to them?

It sounds like a ‘my first excuse book’ sort of excuse.

Surely anyone with half a brain cell will realise that the lower you run these cars, the more downforce to get.

[Farnborough]

How does he know that other teams were 1mm different to them?

It sounds like a ‘my first excuse book’ sort of excuse.

Surely anyone with half a brain cell will realise that the lower you run these cars, the more downforce to get.

Gives credence to the FIA observation of "wobbly head" leading to more suspect floor strike though, doesn't it. They were complaining of personal injury with this just last year and with oscar level acting to get rules changed, now they're back squeezing it absolutely as low as possible in the search for performance. You couldn't really make this up.

[denyall]

I think the assumption that running the car lower gives progressively more performance is probably incorrect as there are many more factors to ultimate pace than just ride hight. LH is probably aluding to this.

This idea is evidenced by RB running higher for two years and still being faster than everyone.

[j_ste]

How does he know that other teams were 1mm different to them?

It sounds like a ‘my first excuse book’ sort of excuse.

Surely anyone with half a brain cell will realise that the lower you run these cars, the more downforce to get.

I think what he is saying is the benefit is negligable. But what would Lewis know...

[AR3-GP]

How does he know that other teams were 1mm different to them?

It sounds like a ‘my first excuse book’ sort of excuse.

Surely anyone with half a brain cell will realise that the lower you run these cars, the more downforce to get.

I think what he is saying is the benefit is negligable. But what would Lewis know...

James Allison:

“We were illegal, so clearly, we should have had our car set a little bit higher up to give ourselves a little bit more margin. It's of course a mistake, it's an understandable sort of mistake in a sprint weekend where it's so much harder to get that stuff right, especially on a bumpy track.

“But a lesson for us in the future to make sure that we take more margin especially at a track like that with all its bumps.”

Analysis: The can of worms opened by Hamilton and Leclerc’s F1 US GP disqualifications

But while Allison admitted that the squad was almost “embarrassed” to have fallen foul of a rules transgression, he said the team had taken positives from the overall performance of the upgraded W14.

“Of course, the disqualification is a significant blow,” he said. “It’s a miserable feeling. It hurts and everybody here feels it.

“Everybody is upset, embarrassed to a degree as well because we absolutely don’t like being on the wrong side of the rules and just lamenting the lost points.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/merce ... /10537757/

[Luscion]

Apparently he failed the measurement by 0.05mm

[dans79]

[PlatinumZealot]

That’s a little confusing. What’s he trying to say? It doesn’t tally up.

The lower you run your car - the more performance you get. Ground effect basics that.

The car is not one static ride height. It's a very dynamic thing. It can be zero rideheight and bw legal if the suspension is extremely stiff ans highly damped... And you can have 30mm rideheight and rub the hell out of the skids because ypu have poor damping and crappy roll bars.

[ringo]

How does he know that other teams were 1mm different to them?

It sounds like a ‘my first excuse book’ sort of excuse.

Surely anyone with half a brain cell will realise that the lower you run these cars, the more downforce to get.

He knows the cars more than any of us do.
He could be right and it makes sense.

The car does not ride on the plank 100% of the lap. It may touch down a few times. I think i mentioned earlier in this thread, you cannot really quantify what a worn skid block means to performance. The car is not riding on the plank.
It's riding on the tyres and on under max suspension loads the car will come down on the plank such as end of straights.
In theory there is performance if the car is lower, but that would apply if a continuous surface is consistently worn resulting in a net reduction of thickness for the whole floor to be lower.
It's really dificult to prove what performance is gained by 1 mm.. and worst that mm is not even across the whole plank nor even a continuous portion.