2023 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Oct 27 - 29

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Fabrega's simulator is probably wrong with his Alpine prediction, but he might nail it again with Aston.

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KimiRai wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:35
Fabrega's simulator is probably wrong with his Alpine prediction, but he might nail it again with Aston.
Williams looks unlikely to come last, though

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search wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:40
KimiRai wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:35
Fabrega's simulator is probably wrong with his Alpine prediction, but he might nail it again with Aston.
Williams looks unlikely to come last, though
Fabrega:

Red Bull
Mercedes +0,1
McLaren +0,2
Ferrari +0,2
Alpine +0,4
Alpha Tauri +0,6
Alfa Romeo +0,6
Aston Martin +0,7
Haas +1
Williams +1,1
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Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:43
search wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:40
KimiRai wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:35
Fabrega's simulator is probably wrong with his Alpine prediction, but he might nail it again with Aston.
Williams looks unlikely to come last, though
Fabrega:

Red Bull
Mercedes +0,1
McLaren +0,2
Ferrari +0,2
Alpine +0,4
Alpha Tauri +0,6
Alfa Romeo +0,6
Aston Martin +0,7
Haas +1
Williams +1,1

Albon in Fp3 was 2 tenths off last year's pole time. Even accounting for the step softer tyres, I think they will comfortably be in Q3. Their race pace also looked alright in free practice. Apart from Alpine and Williams things look accurate?

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I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
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Toto Wolff just said that he expects it to be super close behind Verstappen, and he also included Albon in that group

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Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:52
I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
Probably not, but is he mentally strong enough to be verstappen's teammate? evidence would suggest no. Every driver would look phenomenal with Latifi and then Sargeant running old specifications as the benchmark

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organic wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:54
Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:52
I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
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Probably not, but is he mentally strong enough to be verstappen's teammate? evidence would suggest no. Every driver would look phenomenal with Latifi and then Sargeant running old specifications as the benchmark
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Just look at how he has driven now compared to, say, Bottas, Perez, Russell and Piastri. In a Williams! I'm not comparing him to Sargeant. Besides, he will accept that he will never be World Championship next to Max and Perez has not wanted to accept that for a very long time. I think Albon is a lot stronger mentally than Perez. He doesn't put so much pressure on himself.
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organic wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:54
Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:52
I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
Probably not, but is he mentally strong enough to be verstappen's teammate? evidence would suggest no. Every driver would look phenomenal with Latifi and then Sargeant running old specifications as the benchmark
Yep. Albon was just an ok driver that now has more experience and a mediocre teammate on slower equipment.

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Tires left before qualifying (unless anyone returned a new set):

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Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:52
I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
Imagine Sargeant or Latifi as Verstappen's teammate.

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search wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:19
Tires left before qualifying (unless anyone returned a new set):

https://i.imgur.com/Hp1cem0.png

Verstappen's tire allocation looks inferior.

Mclaren, Mercedes, Ferrari all have 2 sets of mediums. If the race does not turn out to be 1 stopper, or a late race safety car it looks suboptimal.
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marcel171281 wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:23
Wouter wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 20:52
I ask myself how would Albon do in the RB19? Worse than Perez? I don't think so.
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Imagine Sargeant or Latifi as Verstappen's teammate.
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As I wrote here above:

Just look at how he has driven now compared to, say, Bottas, Perez, Russell and Piastri. In a Williams!
I'm not comparing him to Sargeant or Latifi. Besides, he will accept that he will never be World Championship next to Max
and Perez has not wanted to accept that for a very long time. I think Albon is a lot stronger mentally than Perez.
He doesn't put so much pressure on himself.
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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:30
search wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:19
Tires left before qualifying (unless anyone returned a new set):

https://i.imgur.com/Hp1cem0.png

Verstappen's tire allocation looks inferior.

Mclaren, Mercedes, Ferrari all have 2 sets of mediums. If the race does not turn out to be 1 stopper, or a late race safety car it looks suboptimal.
Yeah I think they had to use an extra set of mediums in FP2 to verify the eradication of the fp1 tyre wear

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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:30
Verstappen's tire allocation looks inferior.

Mclaren, Mercedes, Ferrari all have 2 sets of mediums. If the race does not turn out to be 1 stopper, or a late race safety car it looks suboptimal.
I agree, but then i remember that this would have been 2 mediums in last years race, given that the tires are one stop softer this year.

So i don't think it's that big a handicap. If he had HMM left, that would be the equivalent of MSS last year.

Maybe he's planning to go HH, and then either medium or soft, depending on race distance left.


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organic wrote:
28 Oct 2023, 21:34
Yeah I think they had to use an extra set of mediums in FP2 to verify the eradication of the fp1 tyre wear
Great point.