No way, Max will win even starting 10th+. It would be nice to get a double podium though for Ferrari.
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No way, Max will win even starting 10th+. It would be nice to get a double podium though for Ferrari.
"They made full use of the engine's power, but I don't think they can maintain that over the full race distance. It has to be that way, because we have no other explanation for it. If you look at their training results, they have to have been bluffing until Q3," says Red Bull's motorsport consultant.
Marko believes Verstappen underperformed in Q3 and should be quicker than the Ferraris in race trim. He says: "Max didn't have a clean lap in turn 13/14, in the last sector. Not in both runs. That cost him around one and a half tenths of a second in each case."
Marko praises Ricciardo: "The other surprise is Ricciardo, very positive for us."
It's the usual Marko post quali comment. He always finds something if Max isn't on pole.Juzh wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 01:18At some point when you consistently can't get "clean 13/14" you just have to accept that's what the car is capable off. I've looked at his fast laps and none of them would suggest something was seriously off in Q3 in that section. Relying on perfect laps week in week out to achieve pole position won't get you there on a regular basis.
In any case (penalty or not) we'll have race tomorrow. Marko is saying ferrari engine is strong, as we all know, however looking at speed traces RB is nearly a match for them, so if there's pace in the car then Max will be able to overtake.
You sure you got that right? I'm looking at f1 tempo and Ver and Per are dare I say faster on straights, but lose out in slow corners T2-3-4 and then again in the following section.
Okay maybe I'm interpreting that incorrectly. Isn't the RB supposed to be the more efficient car? ferrari's pace really came from nowhere. Marko suggested it was PU.
I had a look at lap 16 of Leclerc, his second Q3 run, he was faster on the straights than the first run and faster than the Red Bulls, suggesting it’s where they went really at full power.
The track temp dropped by 4 degrees at the start of Q3 and the Ferraris came alive. In Q2 they were sliding out of the last turn, in that first Q3 run they looked like they were on rails.AR3-GP wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 01:57Okay maybe I'm interpreting that incorrectly. Isn't the RB supposed to be the more efficient car? ferrari's pace really came from nowhere. Marko suggested it was PU.
In Q2 Ferrari had a first attempt on used tyres and a second attempt barely 0.2s off with a smidge of oversteer on exit which was still there in Q3, just a bit less but hardly responsible for 0.2s. In Q1 they went through with 3rd place with a time on mediums that also was about 0.2s off Max. The car is good here on a single lap, with some luck LEC can get 2nd tomorrow.djos wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:04The track temp dropped by 4 degrees at the start of Q3 and the Ferraris came alive. In Q2 they were sliding out of the last turn, in that first Q3 run they looked like they were on rails.
I doubt PU had anything to do with it.
I just looked at LEC's Q2 attempt and he mostly has understeer in S1 and a blip of oversteer in the last corner. That's about it.
Front tires sliding is just as bad the rear tires sliding. It’s just slower.