2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

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KimiRai
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xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 01:05
As I had already said, there was no point in testing that double pillar. They don't understand anything, that's the truth. They better throw away these updates and bring back the Bahrain car.
Bahrain's front wing, beam wing and rear wing are illegal due to technical directives. It's not coming back so it's time we get over it.

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Stroll had 3 tenths advantage in each session and looked the strongest driver for once, but comes qualifying and Fernando drops almost 4 tenths on him.

That spin in Q1 was awfully convenient, does anyone have the onboard?

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 05:21
Stroll had 3 tenths advantage in each session and looked the strongest driver for once, but comes qualifying and Fernando drops almost 4 tenths on him.

That spin in Q1 was awfully convenient, does anyone have the onboard?
Lol! I haven’t seen the onboard but my thinking was similar to your own.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 05:31
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 05:21
Stroll had 3 tenths advantage in each session and looked the strongest driver for once, but comes qualifying and Fernando drops almost 4 tenths on him.

That spin in Q1 was awfully convenient, does anyone have the onboard?
Lol! I haven’t seen the onboard but my thinking was similar to your own.
Well it's not like he hasn't done it in the past haha, for example Baku 2022. It would've been perfect had Stroll made it to q2 because he was ahead and yellow flags made everyone else not improve. But we'd need the onboard to check.
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xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 01:06
The only thing I don't understand is why they worked in Canada.
Zandvoort also was decent the car.

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 05:01
xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 01:05
As I had already said, there was no point in testing that double pillar. They don't understand anything, that's the truth. They better throw away these updates and bring back the Bahrain car.
Bahrain's front wing, beam wing and rear wing are illegal due to technical directives. It's not coming back so it's time we get over it.
Yeah exactly, they can't bring it back,I mean they could for FP1-3 but if you cant use it for race then is useless.

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So another confirmed failed update. They are the only ones who have not progressed at all in season. Worse than williams and haas. Heads must roll, pathetic 3rd class performance just excuses.

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We don't have the data so in my opinion it's too early to call it failed unless they admit it like they did with Canada's package. All we know is it goes in the same direction as the top teams.

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The end of the season is mostly testing as Alonso said

With so little performance let’s do testing this is the most useful to understand what’s wrong and work for 2024

max_speed
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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 05:21
Stroll had 3 tenths advantage in each session and looked the strongest driver for once, but comes qualifying and Fernando drops almost 4 tenths on him.

That spin in Q1 was awfully convenient, does anyone have the onboard?
Both fighting for 15th hahaha

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Jambier wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:21
The end of the season is mostly testing as Alonso said

With so little performance let’s do testing this is the most useful to understand what’s wrong and work for 2024
After that is learning for 2025

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:17
We don't have the data so in my opinion it's too early to call it failed unless they admit it like they did with Canada's package. All we know is it goes in the same direction as the top teams.
Krack, dan can say whatever bs. In this business stop watch does not lie and is the only barometer. They have been the worst team in developing the car,lets not defend them.

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max_speed wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:57
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:17
We don't have the data so in my opinion it's too early to call it failed unless they admit it like they did with Canada's package. All we know is it goes in the same direction as the top teams.
Krack, dan can say whatever bs. In this business stop watch does not lie and is the only barometer. They have been the worst team in developing the car,lets not defend them.
Well they did say they were gonna have problems developing.

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diffuser wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 07:35
max_speed wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:57
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:17
We don't have the data so in my opinion it's too early to call it failed unless they admit it like they did with Canada's package. All we know is it goes in the same direction as the top teams.
Krack, dan can say whatever bs. In this business stop watch does not lie and is the only barometer. They have been the worst team in developing the car,lets not defend them.
Well they did say they were gonna have problems developing.
Guys I think is not develop problem. I mean Verstappen also said that the tyres always overheated and destroyed at sector 3. Or look at what happened with Williams. Albon at FP3 1.17:9 and at qualifying 1.19. He also couldn't understand,though something wrong with the car even the feeling was different. Is something to do with the temperature or tyres. I remember once a engineer said, you can't find in the car seconds only few tenths, but in the tyres you can find seconds.

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max_speed wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:57
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 06:17
We don't have the data so in my opinion it's too early to call it failed unless they admit it like they did with Canada's package. All we know is it goes in the same direction as the top teams.
Krack, dan can say whatever bs. In this business stop watch does not lie and is the only barometer. They have been the worst team in developing the car,lets not defend them.
You are asking for people to be sacked but the beginning of the season the very same people were all geniuses.

Thankfully no team is so reactionary and immature.