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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:48
Apparently Stroll will be running Qatar parts but with an Austin-specific diffuser - more comparisons? Maybe they're trying to determine which part works better than the others (or doesn't work)?
More and more upset, they are tests based on components that don't work. And they haven't figured it out yet

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xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:59
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:48
Apparently Stroll will be running Qatar parts but with an Austin-specific diffuser - more comparisons? Maybe they're trying to determine which part works better than the others (or doesn't work)?
More and more upset, they are tests based on components that don't work. And they haven't figured it out yet
Do you have any proof? If you have then you should email them! But if not then we cant say such things without any proof yet.

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organic wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:06
It seems the right thing to do. They had great pace in the race at COTA with the new spec. So gather more data and understand why you are slow.
Don't forget that the others (bar Haas) were locked in their original setups. It's highly likely that they were far from their potential, while Aston was able to make key changes after reviewing the data from the sessions. They had a huge advantage in terms of pure pace compared to the rest of the grid, especially when you consider teams like RB and Mercedes which usually make huge gains from Friday to Sunday.

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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:24
organic wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:06
It seems the right thing to do. They had great pace in the race at COTA with the new spec. So gather more data and understand why you are slow.
Don't forget that the others (bar Haas) were locked in their original setups. It's highly likely that they were far from their potential, while Aston was able to make key changes after reviewing the data from the sessions. They had a huge advantage in terms of pure pace compared to the rest of the grid, especially when you consider teams like RB and Mercedes which usually make huge gains from Friday to Sunday.
Defo.
I’m fairly confident Ferrari and Mercedes would have changed their set up :lol:
Just a fan's point of view

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:02
xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:59
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:48
Apparently Stroll will be running Qatar parts but with an Austin-specific diffuser - more comparisons? Maybe they're trying to determine which part works better than the others (or doesn't work)?
More and more upset, they are tests based on components that don't work. And they haven't figured it out yet
Do you have any proof? If you have then you should email them! But if not then we cant say such things without any proof yet.
1.6 seconds from the top is a proof. Updates don't work

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xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:40
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:02
xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:59


More and more upset, they are tests based on components that don't work. And they haven't figured it out yet
Do you have any proof? If you have then you should email them! But if not then we cant say such things without any proof yet.
1.6 seconds from the top is a proof. Updates don't work
By the same reasoning, the Canadian package must have worked, the car was very fast that day. But we all saw what happened afterwards. You see how it's not that easy, otherwise everyone could become an F1 engineer.

The great minds behind the early AMR23 are now all posers, while the useless ones behind the early MCL60 are now all geniuses, according to popular perception. But they are more or less the same people in both cases. You see how perceptions change depending on the results, it's football mentality that doesn't work in F1.

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:48
Apparently Stroll will be running Qatar parts but with an Austin-specific diffuser - more comparisons? Are they trying to determine which part may be causing problems?
Albon at FP3 1.17 at Qualifying 1.19 without touching the car. Tell me why?Nobody knows.

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 21:09
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 19:48
Apparently Stroll will be running Qatar parts but with an Austin-specific diffuser - more comparisons? Are they trying to determine which part may be causing problems?
Albon at FP3 1.17 at Qualifying 1.19 without touching the car. Tell me why?Nobody knows.
I agree that it was strange, but there's a plausible explanation: Track temps were up in qualifying compared to FP3 in the parts of quali that Alex was in & everyone was slower than FP3, but Williams disproportionately so. We know it's a sensitive car when it comes to conditions - I don't see why this wouldn't be another case of that. If Alex had gone through to Q3 we might've seen their FP3 pace return as temperatures dropped for Q3

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KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:49
xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:40
KimiRai wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 20:02


Do you have any proof? If you have then you should email them! But if not then we cant say such things without any proof yet.
1.6 seconds from the top is a proof. Updates don't work
By the same reasoning, the Canadian package must have worked, the car was very fast that day. But we all saw what happened afterwards. You see how it's not that easy, otherwise everyone could become an F1 engineer.

The great minds behind the early AMR23 are now all posers, while the useless ones behind the early MCL60 are now all geniuses, according to popular perception. But they are more or less the same people in both cases. You see how perceptions change depending on the results, it's football mentality that doesn't work in F1.
The explanation is that they banned all the parts that Aston was good for, that's why it was good in Canada. So yes at the moment they are behaving like incompetents

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wow, only Ocon on hards behind them... wow wow wow
Team Fernando!

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Alonso's pace is horrendous...

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Stroll with the right setup slower than Sargeant. What a bluff this team is. Perhaps it has never happened in the history of F1 that an F1 team from second in the standings ends up being last in a championship. I'm shocked

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xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 22:27
Stroll with the right setup slower than Sargeant. What a bluff this team is. Perhaps it has never happened in the history of F1 that an F1 team from second in the standings ends up being last in a championship. I'm shocked
Even Brawn GP wasn't this bad.

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renault rs26 wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 22:42
xReVo wrote:
29 Oct 2023, 22:27
Stroll with the right setup slower than Sargeant. What a bluff this team is. Perhaps it has never happened in the history of F1 that an F1 team from second in the standings ends up being last in a championship. I'm shocked
Even Brawn GP wasn't this bad.
It's comically bad. Literally the slowest car on the track.

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mercedes sabotaged their windtunnel time. Toto told me this in a dream. he was wearing speedos and a motorcycle helmet.