2023 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 03 - 05

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Same as Alonso, both Alpines have used both their sets of hards as well already, by the way. So fair or not, it looks unlikely to make a difference, as the teams don't seem to consider the H as a race tire anyway.

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Logan driving a 3-wheeler - now I've seen it all.

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Leclerc exiting the pits on new softs.
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Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

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As for Red Bull: Max doesn't seem to be happy with the performance. They are looking at a lot of parameters and instability. Red Bull only seem to be doing long runs with no quali sim and only on one set of hards, so the times in practice aren't representitive of course.

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GP seems satisfied though.

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TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png

As for Red Bull: Max doesn't seem to be happy with the performance. They are looking at a lot of parameters and instability. Red Bull only seem to be doing long runs with no quali sim and only on one set of hards, so the times in practice aren't representitive of course.
Or on the flip side, Red Bull is happy and is just saving tyres for the sprint / race.

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Verstappen has been told 5 more laps on his hard long run (15 total) so it looks like they have no intention of running the medium or soft tire in FP1.
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TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png

As for Red Bull: Max doesn't seem to be happy with the performance. They are looking at a lot of parameters and instability. Red Bull only seem to be doing long runs with no quali sim and only on one set of hards, so the times in practice aren't representitive of course.
On your Hamilton puncture, this is naturally promising /s....

On your RB comment, I don't see the same thing. Deg has looked good. He complained about the seat earlier, then complained about torque out of the final corner at start of long run, and then complained about the wind and consistency on lap 9 (?) of the 15 lap run.
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:28
Verstappen has been told 5 more laps on his hard long run (15 total) so it looks like they have no intention of running the medium or soft tire in FP1.
All about getting good race pace here. Overtaking is pretty easy

They pretty much conceded qualifying well with their rear wing choice. Ferrari, McLaren and maybe even Merc will all be competitive or quicker than RB over a lap

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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:32
TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png

As for Red Bull: Max doesn't seem to be happy with the performance. They are looking at a lot of parameters and instability. Red Bull only seem to be doing long runs with no quali sim and only on one set of hards, so the times in practice aren't representitive of course.
On your Hamilton puncture, this is naturally promising /s....

On your RB comment, I don't see the same thing. Deg has looked good. He complained about the seat earlier, then complained about torque out of the final corner at start of long run, and then complained about the wind and consistency on lap 9 (?) of the 15 lap run.
I'm just interpreting what's being said on the radio. Check my last post - I've edited it and attached a few more screenshots. 🙂

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TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:34
AR3-GP wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:32
TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png

As for Red Bull: Max doesn't seem to be happy with the performance. They are looking at a lot of parameters and instability. Red Bull only seem to be doing long runs with no quali sim and only on one set of hards, so the times in practice aren't representitive of course.
On your Hamilton puncture, this is naturally promising /s....

On your RB comment, I don't see the same thing. Deg has looked good. He complained about the seat earlier, then complained about torque out of the final corner at start of long run, and then complained about the wind and consistency on lap 9 (?) of the 15 lap run.
I'm just interpreting what's being said on the radio. Check my last post - I've edited it and attached a few more screenshots. 🙂
Yes it's more clear. We are saying the same things. I think you just missed the radio messages where Max said it wasn't the car causing the inconsistency, but that it was the wind causing it.

I watched the entire stint, and it does not look like they are in trouble. If you saw the FP1 in Mexico, then you know what trouble and high deg looks like :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:36
Yes it's more clear. We are saying the same things. I think you just missed the radio messages where Max said it wasn't the car causing the inconsistency, but that it was the wind causing it.

I watched the entire stint, and it does not look like they are in trouble. If you saw the FP1 in Mexico, then you know what trouble and high deg looks like :lol:
Well, Mexico wasn't a sprint weekend. One vs. three practice sessions. 😀

I didn't miss that other radio message, but going only be text, i assumed it was from GP, not Max. It's my experience that it's generally the engineers that suggest to the drivers when wind might have caused a bad corner.
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03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png
any idea if this happened on the M or the H? Losing a medium would be an issue.

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03 Nov 2023, 17:41
TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:27
Hamilton engineer reported on radio that he was seeing deflation on the left rear. So that's two cars who has had to pit so far with a (possible) puncture. Hamilton told to box 30 seconds later.

https://i.imgur.com/CifIIFr.png
any idea if this happened on the M or the H? Losing a medium would be an issue.
He was on hards, same as Alonso.

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TFSA wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:41
AR3-GP wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 17:36
Yes it's more clear. We are saying the same things. I think you just missed the radio messages where Max said it wasn't the car causing the inconsistency, but that it was the wind causing it.

I watched the entire stint, and it does not look like they are in trouble. If you saw the FP1 in Mexico, then you know what trouble and high deg looks like :lol:
Well, Mexico wasn't a sprint weekend. One vs. three practice sessions. 😀

I didn't miss that other radio message, but going only be text, i assumed it was from GP, not Max. It's my experience that it's generally the engineers that suggest to the drivers when wind might have caused a bad corner.
Ver said the wind was making it hard to brake consistently. I listened to the message live. He stated that one lap he goes long, and another not (with reference to T1). That radio message was clearly Ver, not GP.
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There was also a message from GP back to Max about wind. It was shown on the TV life feed.