2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[organic]

Fuel loads obv different across board

[mwillems]

Fuel loads obv different across board

https://i.imgur.com/0Y6z9rV.jpeg

Piastris long run was 4 laps?

I just looked at the data from F1 Tempo and it's missing a bunch of laps, not sure if it is the API or just that the chart has a cut off for laps outside of a percentage of the drivers fastest time, as the API does this by default, which means they did a lot of in and out runs, and not really any long runs as it has removed the In laps and Out laps.

[mwillems]

Fuel loads obv different across board

https://i.imgur.com/0Y6z9rV.jpeg

From the same guy, but testing on a sprint weekend is very hard to get a read on.

[Macklaren]

interesting given that the view was most teams would run long with high fuel loads to test plank wear

[Macklaren]

Fuel loads obv different across board

https://i.imgur.com/0Y6z9rV.jpeg

From the same guy, but testing on a sprint weekend is very hard to get a read on.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-BYmCDXYAA ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-BYPLEXQAA ... name=large

this chart looks like one of those deep sea videos showing mysterious squids and stingrays

[mwillems]

interesting given that the view was most teams would run long with high fuel loads to test plank wear

Some teams don't, Mercedes in the last sprint race didn't do a heavy fuel long run test, or so they say, and that was the reason they didn't identify that the ride height was too low.

I guess it just depends on what aspects of the setup you have confidence in.

[mwillems]

Just wondering, do you need to do a long run to test plank wear? There are sensors on the suspension and wheels, they know how much the car is travelling up and down, and when it is being stopped by road and not by the suspension itself, and wouldn't they be aware of how much travel is left in the suspension? This would be enough to understand if the suspension is set to a ride height that will result in excess wear. Plus the physical test and eye test on the plank after the runs.

I don't know if this is the case, but it feels like it is something the teams would monitor.

[CjC]

Just wondering, do you need to do a long run to test plank wear? There are sensors on the suspension and wheels, they know how much the car is travelling up and down, and when it is being stopped by road and not by the suspension itself, and wouldn't they be aware of how much travel is left in the suspension? This would be enough to understand if the suspension is set to a ride height that will result in excess wear. Plus the physical test and eye test on the plank after the runs.

I don't know if this is the case, but it feels like it is something the teams would monitor.

I wouldn’t say they need to do a run just do a few laps with full tanks?

[Macklaren]

Just wondering, do you need to do a long run to test plank wear? There are sensors on the suspension and wheels, they know how much the car is travelling up and down, and when it is being stopped by road and not by the suspension itself, and wouldn't they be aware of how much travel is left in the suspension? This would be enough to understand if the suspension is set to a ride height that will result in excess wear. Plus the physical test and eye test on the plank after the runs.

I don't know if this is the case, but it feels like it is something the teams would monitor.

yes but as was pointed out above, during a Sprint week teams may not do a full long run in FP1 and you dont get full plank loads with simulations and sensors (as it happened in Qatar)

[Ground Effect]

Anyone was keeping tabs on long run pace? This session was pretty much useless when it comes to predicting order so long runs might be the only useful bit of information to get out of it.

It almost seems as if teams use the sprint for long runs data instead, didn’t notice any significant long runs.

[mwillems]

Just wondering, do you need to do a long run to test plank wear? There are sensors on the suspension and wheels, they know how much the car is travelling up and down, and when it is being stopped by road and not by the suspension itself, and wouldn't they be aware of how much travel is left in the suspension? This would be enough to understand if the suspension is set to a ride height that will result in excess wear. Plus the physical test and eye test on the plank after the runs.

I don't know if this is the case, but it feels like it is something the teams would monitor.

yes but as was pointed out above, during a Sprint week teams may not do a full long run in FP1 and you dont get full plank loads with simulations and sensors (as it happened in Qatar)

Yeah, I was replying to your surprise that they weren't doing long runs, and I was having a shot as to why they wouldn't need to. I don't think it is necessary to do long runs to get a reasonable gauge of what your setup needs to be at this track, long runs are more about tyres. Austin is different however.

[mwillems]

Well this is shaping up to be an interesting session...

[Marc.W]

Good banker for Lando, hopefully won't have to run again, Oscar on used softs for first run I believe

[mwillems]

Max complaining of the car jumping like a Kangaroo, but watching the Mclaren running it was much the same for us, though I think the RB runs a little firmer.

[mwillems]

Good banker for Lando, hopefully won't have to run again, Oscar on used softs for first run I believe

Yeah he was on used. Let's see how the track rubbers in. And if there is rain, it could threaten Oscar if he doesn't get another lap in before.