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[Luscion]

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Said the same last year

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If this pace is due to setup only, they should start from the pitlane. The circuit should suit the car but it just isn't going to achieve better than P6 as is

[Luscion]

If this pace is due to setup only, they should start from the pitlane. The circuit should suit the car but it just isn't going to achieve better than P6 as is

Agreed, the fact that they're not even considering it with the pace they showed today is very odd to me, it seems like the obvious thing to do but still lots of time from now until the race

[AR3-GP]

What is interesting is that Russell brought the tires in much more aggressively than Hamilton but didn't suffer as badly as Hamilton did at the end. Russell even endured a prolonged battle with Perez, while Hamilton's own was much shorter.

[avantman]

Russell was today slower by 22 seconds compared to last year. Which is in 24 lap race not far from second per lap slower. Similar C4 tires and conditions were similar as well as I recall .
Verstappen by the way finished the Sprint just 4 seconds faster compared to Russell last year.

[Hammerfist]

Because they went well at Singapore. And because nobody knows really about Vegas yet. I expected Mercedes to be there here, but indeed, probably not at the other races.

Some of us have driven vegas on a sim. That main straight is longer than Mexico’s I reckon. So absolutely no chance for merc there. probably will lose 1 sec on the straights alone. Will be embarrassing.
Abu dhabi will be less painful.

[AR3-GP]

The math for Merc this year has been simple. They are the most competitive where everyone runs high downforce and the least competitive where the circuit requires low downforce. So that's why I think vegas will be a massacre, Abu Dhabi less so, but if they are even thinking about bringing that high downforce wing to AD, they will get massacred there too.

[Bill_Kar]

What is interesting is that Russell brought the tires in much more aggressively than Hamilton but didn't suffer as badly as Hamilton did at the end. Russell even endured a prolonged battle with Perez, while Hamilton's own was much shorter.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxZnW9dZ/image.png

Uhm sorry, is this screenshot from an app or a website?

[AR3-GP]

What is interesting is that Russell brought the tires in much more aggressively than Hamilton but didn't suffer as badly as Hamilton did at the end. Russell even endured a prolonged battle with Perez, while Hamilton's own was much shorter.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxZnW9dZ/image.png

Uhm sorry, is this screenshot from an app or a website?

From here:

https://www.f1-tempo.com/

[Bill_Kar]

What is interesting is that Russell brought the tires in much more aggressively than Hamilton but didn't suffer as badly as Hamilton did at the end. Russell even endured a prolonged battle with Perez, while Hamilton's own was much shorter.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxZnW9dZ/image.png

Uhm sorry, is this screenshot from an app or a website?

From here:

https://www.f1-tempo.com/

Cheers!

[Bill_Kar]

Duchessa thinks that the harder compounds will favour Mercedes tomorrow.

[Luscion]

Duchessa thinks that the harder compounds will favour Mercedes tomorrow.

Where are they getting that from? i dont think even Merc thinks that, there's also nothing in the article they link about how they came to that conclusion, its not even mentioned at all

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Lower temperatures should hurt the harder compound tomorrow as it'll slide more and be easier to grain.

Additionally nothing suggests that a harder compound would be better than the soft for the stint that isn't the medium tyre. Hamilton ran the hard for his long run in fp1 and was not only slow but experienced a lot of degradation compared to others despite being on similar fuel load.

First laptime of the stint was a 1.15.8 and average of final 3 laps was 1.17.0 despite the stint being only 12 laps long. Compared to others this was very bad.



So I don't see M/M/H being likely. S/M/M like others will do is going to be quicker even if Merc are bad with the soft. Just have to hope they don't cook the medium tyre as well

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So I don't see M/M/H being likely. S/M/M like others will do is going to be quicker even if Merc are bad with the soft. Just have to hope they don't cook the medium tyre as well

Isola said that the medium came in quicker but had higher degradation than the softs in the sprint, so the behaviour was actually the opposite of what was expected.

This may be falsified by only Haas & Sargeant using the tire, of course, but generally I wouldn't be too surprised to see even two stints on softs for a couple of teams.