2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas, Nov 16 - 18

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search wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 10:02
I'll never be able to unsee that anymore, I'm afraid

https://i.imgur.com/nQXZjFP.png
Amazing.

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djones wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 15:53
search wrote:
14 Nov 2023, 10:02
I'll never be able to unsee that anymore, I'm afraid

https://i.imgur.com/nQXZjFP.png
Amazing.
It is symbolic. They empty people's piggy banks when attending the race.

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Re: 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas, Nov 16 - 18

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Karun says he thinks the asphalt is surprisingly high grip


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organic wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 09:47
Karun says he thinks the asphalt is surprisingly high grip

Which is not necessarily good regarding graining, right?
Don`t russel the hamster!

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Re: 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas, Nov 16 - 18

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Some possible scenarios and considerations for this race:

- FP1 will be the most relevant practice session for both being at almost the same time with the race and also for learning the behaviors of the tyres
- at FP1 there will be tested mostly the medium C4 tyres, which is the designated race tyre
- at FP2 there will be some setup changes coming from the lessons learned at FP1 starting with some long runs then followed by the qualy runs at the end of the session to be on a similar track temp with those on Saturday qualy.
- some teams such as Haas, Sauber, and Ferrari will have no issue warming up the tyres faster than other teams the tyres, particularly the C5 soft tyre. The other teams will need at least a 2 lap warm-up phase.
- those teams that have issues with tyre warm-up will compromise their race strategy from the proposed 2-stop to maybe a 3-stop race and that is due to some air brake duct alterations in order to heat the wheel rims faster and constantly, thus thermal deg will increase and the need for more stops in the race. And that could be actually a good thing, taking into account it`s a street race with a high chance of an SC/VSC phase or more.
- the tyre graining phase has also to be taken into account by those teams that have issues with the tyres warm-up and choose to set up the car for longer stints/fewer stops.
- now regarding the lower track temps why not heat the tarmac before the FPs, qualy, and the race with a couple of hot blowers, something they are usually doing in the States ...
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organic wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 19:27
https://i.imgur.com/coqmcf2.jpeg
Oh well .. at least not the 5C figures
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organic wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 20:42
Doesn’t appear to be the most accurate of reports… says temps may be anywhere between 11-21’c

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the EDGE wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:23
Doesn’t appear to be the most accurate of reports… says temps may be anywhere between 11-21’c
Is this any better


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organic wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:25
the EDGE wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:23
Doesn’t appear to be the most accurate of reports… says temps may be anywhere between 11-21’c
Is this any better

🤣 I was t complaining Organic… just making a comment… but yea, that’s much clearer, thanks 😉

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the EDGE wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:47
organic wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:25
the EDGE wrote:
15 Nov 2023, 23:23


Doesn’t appear to be the most accurate of reports… says temps may be anywhere between 11-21’c
Is this any better

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 40867?s=19
🤣 I was t complaining Organic… just making a comment… but yea, that’s much clearer, thanks 😉
I know don't worry I'm just poking fun

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Ferrari and McLaren going Monza spec with gurney? Seems most teams across the grid have arrived at this solution. RB going with untrimmed low DF wing (though might run back to back with trimmed spec)


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RB will lose far too much time in race trim without DRS with such a wing. I suspect that they will arrive at a similar conclusion to monza.

Alternatively they anticipate a massive tire temp struggle and have no choice.
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