chrstphrln wrote: ↑17 Nov 2023, 16:35
Mogster wrote: ↑17 Nov 2023, 16:03
basti313 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2023, 15:53
Yes...but...once you add a "force majeure" rule on damages, the stewards have to start interpreting it. Once they start interpreting any rule it is usually funny. If they would have a very strict wording, the seldom case will not fit...so it needs to be a bit wider.
That’s my concern.
I remember Russell’s Williams being destroyed by a drain cover at Baku 2019. Did Williams get any reparations from the organisers?
But you are now mixing things that have nothing to do with each other.
First and foremost, it's about the grid penalty for replacing the battery, which was destroyed by "force majeure".
It's about the sporting regulations and not about financial compensation.
There was no Cost Cap in 2019, so it is not relevant whether Williams was compensated by insurance or anyone else.
And there was no grip penalty.
If it is true that Mercedes voted against it, it is gross unsportsmanlike behavior. To Toto, one would want teams to remember this behavior in a similar situation and make him pay appropriately for it.
No, I think it is most probably relevant:
It should be the standard that the track authorities exclude any liabilities. Otherwise they would be in big ****, just think about any issue you can generate from sand killing an engine down to a deadly crash into a weak barrier.
So responsible is always the team and driver and if you remember Senna...even the team has very limited liabilities.
That being said and adding the above that any number you write on a defective F1 car part is a wrong number...there is no monetary refunds. Period.
So everything really boils down to the grid penalty. I do not see a voting, that was not mentioned by the stewards. So it comes all down to the stewards deciding.
Now would they decide that the man hole is "force majeure"....would Hamilton have hit the same hole and now has strange data on the engine? Is there a scratch on Ocon`s battery as well? May have the surge from the battery have done harm to the ERS...so Ferrari now needs to change the full engine unfortunately?
If they could vote for "force majeure" it would immediately get ridiculous I fear...it will not end at a new battery for Sainz.