2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[codetower]

I disagree with a couple of these statements. First, they don't need a "polite" engineer; They need an engineer who is leading his team or engineers and strategists...

But that is not the race engineer responsibility! There´s a strategy team for that

...and giving the drivers the "right" information at the "right time".

Agree, that´s what I said. But the right info at the right time depends on the driver too, not all of them demand the same level of detailed info

I don't care how smart a driver is, they only have access to a fraction of the data that the engineering team has; How big the gaps and deltas are, what the lap times of all other drivers are, how the different tire compounds are behaving on other cars, on your teammates car, when the best lap to pit is so you are out in the best window... All these things. The driver knows his car, and his race. His engineer should know everything else about the race better than the driver.

As fans we love it when a driver makes the decision to box on X lap for X tire compound, or to back up and give DRS to the guy behind you to keep the guys behind so you can keep your position, or to let a driver pass you to make up a 5 second penalty. But in reality, the pit wall and engineer SHOULD know this better than the driver. This is what concerns me not only about Charles' engineer, but Carlos' also.

And secondly, I don't care how much the driver likes the engineer, if the engineer is not bringing the best results, or holding a driver back... he's not doing a good job. That kind of thinking is exactly what failed Binotto.

Also agree with this, but you keep assuming that is the race engineer responsibility, when it is not. The strategy team manage that info, and make those decisions, not the race engineer, he only transmit the strategy team decisions to the driver

Or that´s my understanding of the role of race engineers, but maybe I´m wrong

I don't know what Xavi's exact role is at Ferrari, but the way I understand it, the role of the Race Engineer is basically the main link between the driver and the team. He's the gatekeeper of all the information happening on and off the track. His job is a lot more than just talking to the driver and telling them they are doing a "good job".

Here are two articles (Just did a quick search). One on Mazepins old engineer, and one on GP Lambiase. I figured I do both extremes. In Nikita's he basically says his main responsibility is to "lead the engineering team for his car". And on Race day (on Event) "I manage the car’s operation in the garage. This includes the run plan, the timings we leave the garage, the set-up on the car and I communicate with the driver when he’s on track." He also says "I control the engineering direction on the car taking information from everyone and deciding how to move forward."

And for Lambiase, "[he] is responsible for the operation of the car and interacts with the various specialists behind the scenes to ensure the team delivers "the most optimum package for that particular weekend” "

So I would assume (I may also be wrong) that Xavi should carry some of these responsibilities as well.

https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-b ... s/6634825/
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/202 ... gineer-gp/

[Andres125sx]

I manage the car´s operation in teh garaje (FP), when the car leave the garaje (FP), the setup on the car (FP), and comunicate with the driver whenehe´s on track (any session). I can´t see how this contradict any of what I said, during the race, he´s just the team spokesman for the driver.

He also said this:

There is a people side to the role as well, as you have to speak with the driver a lot – to make sure he’s happy, understanding his needs and limitations. We bring the engineering side together with the human side.

Wich is exactly what I said, almost look like a copy of my statement actually

[Sevach]

We caught you Charles

[AR3-GP]

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Truer words have never been spoken

It was the same with Hamilton.

[Xyz22]

Leclerc season recap thanks to The Race:




Absolutely crazy to see such a difference in performance with just a more favourable balance.

[scuderiabrandon]

Leclerc season recap thanks to The Race:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAWq54WW0AA ... name=large


Absolutely crazy to see such a difference in performance with just a more favourable balance.

It is crazy to believe a simple balance shift can make such a big difference. I was amongst the people who made these claims, which looking back seems absolutely crazy, and at a point I felt like a was just making excuses but were all proven right, which I can't be more happy about. It seems absolutely bonkers until it happens.

In a way I am very glad Ferrari had the sturggles they had. Finding consistent performane is the hardest thing to do it seems. Literally only Red Bull have achieved this across an entire season and now to the latter stages, Ferrari, which gives me unexplainable hope.

[Xyz22]

Leclerc season recap thanks to The Race:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAWq54WW0AA ... name=large


Absolutely crazy to see such a difference in performance with just a more favourable balance.

It is crazy to believe a simple balance shift can make such a big difference. I was amongst the people who made these claims, which looking back seems absolutely crazy, and at a point I felt like a was just making excuses but were all proven right, which I can't be more happy about. It seems absolutely bonkers until it happens.

In a way I am very glad Ferrari had the sturggles they had. Finding consistent performane is the hardest thing to do it seems. Literally only Red Bull have achieved this across an entire season and now to the latter stages, Ferrari, which gives me unexplainable hope.

Personally, i didn't expect such an improvement because i thought well this is still the same car that he clearly doesn't like.
Moreover, Sainz is not a slow driver at all and especially in tracks like Mexico or Brazil.

So yeah, quite shocking.

[Vanja #66]

Moreover, Sainz is not a slow driver at all and especially in tracks like Mexico or Brazil.

So yeah, quite shocking.

Sainz gets slower when Leclerc is up to speed with the car. Same thing with Max in STR. Not sure if he starts questioning himself too much and so loses focus and 1-2 tenths a lap, but it affects him big time.

[AR3-GP]

It was a strange end to the season. RB and Ferrari did not touch their cars since the summer. Their 2nd driver performances still changed a lot during this time. Perez improved, Sainz got worse. It just shows that there are variables even when the car does not change.

[Andres125sx]

Moreover, Sainz is not a slow driver at all and especially in tracks like Mexico or Brazil.

So yeah, quite shocking.

Sainz gets slower when Leclerc is up to speed with the car. Same thing with Max in STR. Not sure if he starts questioning himself too much and so loses focus and 1-2 tenths a lap, but it affects him big time.

As usual, you can´t skip any opportunity to bash Sainz, with or without a reason

From Japan, there was 7 GPs remaining, Sainz scored 54 points, Leclerc 83
At first 7 GPs of the season, Sainz scored 58 points, Leclerc 42

58-54 is quite consistent from Sainz. 42-83 is not from Leclerc

And I didn´t even consider Qatar, next GP to Japan, when Sainz DNS because of a car problem (fuel leakage), so he could have scored even more points in that last third of the season, than he did at first


Leclerc perfomance was night and day during the season, quite poor at first, much better at the end. I understand this ups and downs from Leclerc might confuse you when comparing his perfomance with Sainz, but the inconsistent driver this season was Leclerc, not Sainz

I know, the car didn´t suit him at the start of the season. Poor boy. But that is Leclerc problem/limitation. Great drivers can adapt to any car, sorry if Leclerc can´t, but that is not Sainz problem. If you want to accuse any driver of inconsistency, this season that driver was Leclerc... again

Otherwise he should outscore Sainz by a factor of 1.5-2, but after 3 seasons that has never happened yet, he´s extremelly fast, but also very inconsistent.

Actually Leclerc is similar to the SF23, they both have a pretty small operating window, they´re fast when conditions are ok, but without those conditions perfomance drops way too much

[Xyz22]

Not sure if i agree with the statement that Sainz got slower.

[codetower]

Moreover, Sainz is not a slow driver at all and especially in tracks like Mexico or Brazil.

So yeah, quite shocking.

Sainz gets slower when Leclerc is up to speed with the car. Same thing with Max in STR. Not sure if he starts questioning himself too much and so loses focus and 1-2 tenths a lap, but it affects him big time.

As usual, you can´t skip any opportunity to bash Sainz, with or without a reason

From Japan, there was 7 GPs remaining, Sainz scored 54 points, Leclerc 83
At first 7 GPs of the season, Sainz scored 58 points, Leclerc 42

58-54 is quite consistent from Sainz. 42-83 is not from Leclerc

And I didn´t even consider Qatar, next GP to Japan, when Sainz DNS because of a car problem (fuel leakage), so he could have scored even more points in that last third of the season, than he did at first


Leclerc perfomance was night and day during the season, quite poor at first, much better at the end. I understand this ups and downs from Leclerc might confuse you when comparing his perfomance with Sainz, but the inconsistent driver this season was Leclerc, not Sainz

I know, the car didn´t suit him at the start of the season. Poor boy. But that is Leclerc problem/limitation. Great drivers can adapt to any car, sorry if Leclerc can´t, but that is not Sainz problem. If you want to accuse any driver of inconsistency, this season that driver was Leclerc... again

Otherwise he should outscore Sainz by a factor of 1.5-2, but after 3 seasons that has never happened yet, he´s extremelly fast, but also very inconsistent.

Actually Leclerc is similar to the SF23, they both have a pretty small operating window, they´re fast when conditions are ok, but without those conditions perfomance drops way too much

You didn't consider Sainz DNS? Did you also not consider Charles’ DNS? OR his DSQ? Or the engine issues from a podium spot at the first race, or the 10 place grid penalty at the race after?

Not sure if i agree with the statement that Sainz got slower.

I don’t think Sainz becomes slower. He’s a fast driver. But i think with a good car, Leclerc’s speed and talent come out more.

[AR3-GP]

Sainz was very bad in the last 2 races despite no changes to the car. Either he got slower, or the late season car replacements were not up to scratch.

[Xyz22]

Sainz was very bad in the last 2 races despite no changes to the car. Either he got slower, or the late season car replacements were not up to scratch.

In quali he was good in Vegas. The race didn't go according to plan.

He was slow in Abu Dhabi, especially in quali and in the first stint.

[Vanja #66]

Sainz was very bad in the last 2 races despite no changes to the car. Either he got slower, or the late season car replacements were not up to scratch.

He had abysmal pace in Brasil too and was quite clearly slower than team mate in Texas. Poor Q in Qatar and was more than 3 tenths off team mate in Japan Q. Compare that to Monza and Singapore.

In the last 7 races since Japan upgrade Leclerc got 73 points from 5 finished races, 14.6 pts/race. His season average is 11.8 pts/race (finished). Sainz got 51 from 6 finished races, a lowly average of 8.5 pts/race and lower than his full season average of 10 pts/race (finished).

However, not even Perez self-destructed in the race following his Baku win all of a sudden (Miami). He had a hard weekend in Monaco and only after that went into his poor run for a while. It's a psychological thing for both of them, drawing confidence only when they are on par with team mate, instead of drawing confidence from how the car feels.