Toto Wolff accused of leaking/receiving confidential information

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MtthsMlw wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 19:55
Ahh, Alfa is still missing
either their social media admin is napping at the wrong time or we've found out who it was

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And thats all 9 teams denying it


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Is it me or do they all have the same marketing people bringing out the statement.... ???

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DDopey wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 20:11
Is it me or do they all have the same marketing people bringing out the statement.... ???
seems like a show of solidarity imo, basically all released at the same time with almost identical wording across the board, very much seems planned by all the teams

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Yes, that is a coordinated action no doubt. Also, I urge everyone here to refrain from making statements, naming people snitches or individually (and baseless) accuse people.

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Luscion wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 20:13
DDopey wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 20:11
Is it me or do they all have the same marketing people bringing out the statement.... ???
seems like a show of solidarity imo, basically all released at the same time with almost identical wording across the board, very much seems planned by all the teams
That might be so, but the exact wordings, never seen that like this.

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They got together, wrote the wording, it didn’t leak, and all teams posted it at the agreed time.

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What other people could be attendees at these team principle meetings?

I think its right the FIA are looking into it. Its good due diligence to investigate. I imagine people wouldn't be happy if a rumour was found to be true and the FIA didn't investigate or take action.

Only other possible thing.....is one (or more teams) telling a little lie in a statement. How much information from team principle meetings gets fed back down to lower levels within the team....there could well be a little mole in the team or a white knight anonymously dropping a hint to someone to investigate.
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The FIA needs to be a self-regulatory agency, so they need to open an investigation on their own. Teams denying they made a formal complaint is just that. Hopefully this will be thoroughly checked, there have been way too many convenient coincidences regarding Mercedes and F1 since before 2013.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 20:29
The FIA needs to be a self-regulatory agency, so they need to open an investigation on their own. Teams denying they made a formal complaint is just that.
Yup, but i think its more so them calling out BusinessF1 for lying, saying that multiple teams complained about Susie and Toto sharing confidential info

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Vanja #66 wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 20:29
The FIA needs to be a self-regulatory agency, so they need to open an investigation on their own. Teams denying they made a formal complaint is just that. Hopefully this will be thoroughly checked, there have been way too many convenient coincidences regarding Mercedes and F1 since before 2013.
Can you name them?

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Teams denying they made a formal complaint. Did they talk to Dieter Rencken as they always used to do?
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11 - 11 - 2023
The FIA has appointed an F1 Commissioner to "help with its strategies and improvements in grand prix racing,"
as former F1 journalist Dieter Rencken "will take up the role with immediate effect."
Rencken, who has been "working as an advisor" to FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem for several months,
will report directly to Ben Sulayem and "has been tasked with assisting in the formulation and implementation
of improvements for F1 on behalf of the governing body."
He will furthermore "help with discussions over the framing of the new Concorde Agreement," the document by which F1 is run,
which is "expected to come into force in 2026." The idea of the FIA having a dedicated commissioner for F1 was
"something that has been talked about several times in the past"
Last edited by Wouter on 06 Dec 2023, 21:20, edited 1 time in total.
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Wouter wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 21:18
Teams denying they made a formal complaint. Did they talk to Dieter Rencken as they always used to do?
.
11 - 11 - 2023
The FIA has appointed an F1 Commissioner to "help with its strategies and improvements in grand prix racing,"
as former F1 journalist Dieter Rencken "will take up the role with immediate effect."
Rencken, who has been "working as an advisor" to FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem for several months,
will report directly to Ben Sulayem and "has been tasked with assisting in the formulation and implementation
of improvements for F1 on behalf of the governing body."
He will furthermore "help with discussions over the framing of the new Concorde Agreement," the document by which F1 is run,
which is "expected to come into force in 2026." The idea of the FIA having a dedicated commissioner for F1 was
"something that has been talked about several times in the past"

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Wouter wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 21:18
Teams denying they made a formal complaint. Did they talk to Dieter Rencken as they always used to do?

EDIT: “No formal complaint” isn’t the same as leaked it to the (former) press or mentioned it in passing.
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11 - 11 - 2023
The FIA has appointed an F1 Commissioner to "help with its strategies and improvements in grand prix racing,"
as former F1 journalist Dieter Rencken "will take up the role with immediate effect."
Rencken, who has been "working as an advisor" to FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem for several months,
will report directly to Ben Sulayem and "has been tasked with assisting in the formulation and implementation
of improvements for F1 on behalf of the governing body."
He will furthermore "help with discussions over the framing of the new Concorde Agreement," the document by which F1 is run,
which is "expected to come into force in 2026." The idea of the FIA having a dedicated commissioner for F1 was
"something that has been talked about several times in the past"
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Sometimes where there is smoke, it's just smoke...

The teams have zero benefit in denial if it's a lie, and this notion of official vs unofficial is just semantics. Ben isn't the guy to sit idle and be made the bad guy for the sake of protecting "unofficial" info or informants..