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Keep it topical to RB20 speculation, rather than arguing the toss around cooling ducting on previous sundry cars.
Their drag was very far from being a weakness. They pretty much ran a step higher downforce levels at every circuit and was comfortably top 3 on the speed traps.Zynerji wrote: ↑24 Jan 2024, 18:00My real speculation on the RB20 is that is will be mechanical grip and drag reduction that is the focus. Slow speed cornering, and top end power limiters were their only real weakness in 2023.
So, I believe the aero direction will focus more on a super stable, but only like 95% of MAX downforce type coupled with shapes that are more focused on drag shedding/downstream maintenance. That leads my speculation into things like internal ducting with placed outlets for jetting, front brake duct revolutions for wake shaping, and yaw-compensated surfaces to maintain the high-speed corner dominance.
Now, just add a driver that runs 50hrs a week in the Sim tweaking his setup with his engineer, and he can do instant hot-laps at any circuit...
"Competitive enough". lol. They were a decent bit away from Ferrari in terms of traction and braking. This was quite evident in Monza and Las Vegas. They had the ride quality of a skateboard and Sergio Perez's braking points were very early. I suspect it was too much of a compromise because the team said they would fix those things in the RB20.scuderiabrandon wrote: ↑24 Jan 2024, 18:10
Low speed cornering was competitive enough. They clearly have the right compromise. Bump/kerb compliance was the biggest issue for them.
Yes competitive enough "lol". Last time I remember they won both those races, including Monaco, Bahrain, Montreal with an asterisk on the Las Vegas race. Have a look at the telemetry and tell me Ferrari were light years ahead in the braking/traction zones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑24 Jan 2024, 18:33"Competitive enough". lol. They were a decent bit away from Ferrari in terms of traction and braking. This was quite evident in Monza and Las Vegas. They had the ride quality of a skateboard and Sergio Perez's braking points were very early. I suspect it was too much of a compromise because the team said they would fix those things in the RB20.scuderiabrandon wrote: ↑24 Jan 2024, 18:10
Low speed cornering was competitive enough. They clearly have the right compromise. Bump/kerb compliance was the biggest issue for them.
Well, I assume with the cost cap gives every team about the same development power. Some slight differences in facilities, some may be abit more effective, but ballpark equal.
It's allowed, but using NACA ducts for radiator cooling is far from ideal. NACA ducts introduce two strong vortices which draw the air inside the duct. This entire flow is then largely vortical and this means cooling losses, ie bigger radiators and bigger duct inlet are required.BassVirolla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2024, 22:41Given that Red Bull has been sliming down the frontal area of the sidepod inlets, are there any chance to see something similar to a NACA duct? Do the rules allow that, as long as you keep the inlet in the allowed volume?
That's actually an illustration from my article Made with exceptional MS Paint skillsFW17 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 11:142017 Ferrari had a top opening sidepod for one of the coolers. Not sure how good it was.
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4D12 ... QfebXDYpOI
Didn't think about internal losses, even knowing about such vorticity.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 09:38It's allowed, but using NACA ducts for radiator cooling is far from ideal. NACA ducts introduce two strong vortices which draw the air inside the duct. This entire flow is then largely vortical and this means cooling losses, ie bigger radiators and bigger duct inlet are required.BassVirolla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2024, 22:41Given that Red Bull has been sliming down the frontal area of the sidepod inlets, are there any chance to see something similar to a NACA duct? Do the rules allow that, as long as you keep the inlet in the allowed volume?
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1 ... X-gr15.jpg
As you can see, its flow characteristics also largely depend on both upstream and downstream conditions. When you have some spillage in your typical inlet, you know what to expect and how to handle it, while NACA ducts are more complex.