2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Right - Guys, Ladies...

Can we stop the driver yin-yang in this Ferrari Team thread please? LH vs GR and JB vs LH - not for this one - take it to Silly Season (as this is the cause of it..)
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Fred mentioned MAJOR engineering team signings joining in 2024 other than Loic from mercedes any others rumoured to be joining? i wonder if Lewis got told who was coming and then that made up his mind

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Looking back at rumours that Vasseur will replace Binotto, many of us had concerns over his relationship with Toto. I guess this cutthroat move answered that...

Vigna seems to be sidelined internally, which is not that strange since Elkann was chosen by Gianni Agnelli (his grandfather) to lead the Agnelli family decades ago. Impossible to say these recent and further upcoming moves by Elkann-Vasseur duo will bear fruit, but they are the right moves to do so.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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mstar wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 12:08
Fred mentioned MAJOR engineering team signings joining in 2024 other than Loic from mercedes any others rumoured to be joining? i wonder if Lewis got told who was coming and then that made up his mind
There were two rumoured RB staff joining and given gardening leave, but then it went quiet. Loic Serra confirmed to start working no earlier than 2025 for Ferrari.

I’d imagine recruitment accelerates now with the signing of Hamilton.

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02 Feb 2024, 11:21
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02 Feb 2024, 11:06
I admit I might be getting a bit caught in the moment, but this strange thought just occurred to me. Adrian Newey has been relegated to working only on the road/track RB17 for this year, what if that scenario is just a fancy gardening leave? He gets courted all the time, what if Vasseur finally convinced him? Nobody thought Lewis to Scuderia was possible even though Lewis himself had said that its something he wanted, and Newey has mentioned something similar last year.
I'll go take my meds now :lol: :lol:
That's the point of this signing, it shook the F1 world to its core and now everything is possible. Who would miss a chance to be a part of the team that later made someone an 8-time F1 World Champ? It's a very strong and attractive story.

I think it will take Adrian less time to win 5 more titles with Max than 1 with Lewis at Ferrari, where Charles could actually do better.

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CaribouBread wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 11:06
I admit I might be getting a bit caught in the moment, but this strange thought just occurred to me. Adrian Newey has been relegated to working only on the road/track RB17 for this year, what if that scenario is just a fancy gardening leave? He gets courted all the time, what if Vasseur finally convinced him? Nobody thought Lewis to Scuderia was possible even though Lewis himself had said that its something he wanted, and Newey has mentioned something similar last year.
I'll go take my meds now :lol: :lol:
What is the source for the bold sentence? Thanks

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Figures circulating are 160 million euros salary total across both drivers. Eye-watering stuff

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02 Feb 2024, 13:27
Figures circulating are 160 million euros salary total across both drivers. Eye-watering stuff
I read

LH -€ 40 million per season until 2026 end (one year optional extension)
CL -€ 30 million per season until 2028 (deal includes a break clause, allowing him to leave the team after the 2026 season

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DGP123 wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 13:40
organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 13:27
Figures circulating are 160 million euros salary total across both drivers. Eye-watering stuff
I read

LH -€ 40 million per season until 2026 end (one year optional extension)
CL -€ 30 million per season until 2028 (deal includes a break clause, allowing him to leave the team after the 2026 season

Your numbers are more realistic but do seem a bit low especially for Lewis who I believe was reported to be on 50m at Merc ?

Mine were also gross rather than net

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02 Feb 2024, 10:24
Bono might have sentimental value but I think Lewis is better off keeping Riccardo Adami around. He needs a veteran around to accommodate him who's already worked with another multi-world champion in the past. At any rate if Bono joins Ferrari it would be in a factory role, he was already on his way out of garage duties at Mercedes.
Also, Hamilton should want someone close who speaks Italian, Bono wasn't that good anyway, no, no, no, no, no, always giving the wrong info at the wrong time.

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https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10571627/
The next Rossa, which will be presented on the afternoon of February 13, should have more yellow in its livery, according to information gathered by Motorsport.com.

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 13:57
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10571627/
The next Rossa, which will be presented on the afternoon of February 13, should have more yellow in its livery, according to information gathered by Motorsport.com.
I did like the Monza livery, Le Mans tribute, with yellow accents.

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Motorsport-total report that the deal was struck in April/may via handshake. We heard about Lewis meeting with Elkann at Monaco GP weekend at the time but it was brushed off as the usual contract negotiation tactics (look for competitive offers elsewhere as a bargaining chip)

Apparently it was all signed on paper in August.

I believe Lewis and his management decided 31st Jan because that was date he'd see Toto Wolff in person before the season starts.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... s-24020110

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:23
Motorsport-total report that the deal was struck in April/may via handshake. We heard about Lewis meeting with Elkann at Monaco GP weekend at the time but it was brushed off as the usual contract negotiation tactics (look for competitive offers elsewhere as a bargaining chip)

Apparently it was all signed on paper in August.

I believe Lewis and his management decided 31st Jan because that was date he'd see Toto Wolff in person before the season starts.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... s-24020110
If that’s true, why wait for 2025 ?

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Bill_Kar wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:33
organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:23
Motorsport-total report that the deal was struck in April/may via handshake. We heard about Lewis meeting with Elkann at Monaco GP weekend at the time but it was brushed off as the usual contract negotiation tactics (look for competitive offers elsewhere as a bargaining chip)

Apparently it was all signed on paper in August.

I believe Lewis and his management decided 31st Jan because that was date he'd see Toto Wolff in person before the season starts.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... s-24020110
If that’s true, why wait for 2025 ?
Sainz contract to end of '24 so Lewis signed a 1+1 but no intention to fulfill the 2nd year option.. just merc didnt know that. If Lewis told Merc he wanted only 1yr extension because he's off in a year then Merc wouldn't be very inclined to give Lewis a £50m contract for 2024 to be honest