Kick Sauber C44

[christian.falavena]

This is the official C44 car thread. The thread has been created to facilitate discussion specifically about the C44 car.

Please, ONLY discuss technical items of this car. Refrain from speculation.

General discussion about the team, its drivers and performance can be posted in the team thread.

Livery discussion also belongs in the 2024 Stake F1 Team thread.

[stonehenge]

F1 has the car name is being "Kick Sauber C44" and the constructor's entry as "Kick Sauber." Should update the title to reflect this.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... mP1Pv.html

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... VTrgt.html

[michl420]

The first car that carry that special bulge in the sidepod that only red bull had last year.

[hollus]

This was only a livery show, correct me if I am wrong.
Locking until some new sexy shapes are shown.

OK, OK, OK, I flunked.
Enough new car, apparently. My bad, unlocked.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Very aggressive iteration by sauber

[F1maniac^2]

Really big departure from last year. 100% the team to look out for in 2024.

[wiktor977]

Similar rear wing detail as on AMR23

[Holm86]

https://i.postimg.cc/D08KXmXW/tzx5hww1962b1.jpg

Similar rear wing detail as on AMR23

Same color too

[AR3-GP]

Sauber has a history of fake renders iirc. Nevertheless, that detail appeared to be beneficial to other cars last year.

[Blackout]

https://i.postimg.cc/D08KXmXW/tzx5hww1962b1.jpg

Similar rear wing detail as on AMR23

Alpine did that thing first.

The sidepods are not that conventional with that extreme undercut, actually they are a mix between the '22 'floating' Alfa sidepods & the popular ramp-shaped sidepods that Alfa adopted in '23. That bulge is a logical result of this mixture (wide flancs + big undercut underneath).
Alfa already had very aggressive nose-up front wishbones like RB since 2022, (and pushrods at the rear) but now they also have pullrods at the front, like RB? like the last two JK cars too...
So the car/render is an evolution of the last 2 Saubers*, with a big James Key/Mclaren influence in many areas, and RB influence ofcourse, but it's not a simple RB copy/paste.

[organic]

On track for shakedown at Barcelona

[organic]

From this I'm seeing a waterslide on top of very aggressively undercut sidepods. Might be lowest volume along with AMR?



Alpine-style nose and front wing as well with quite wide nose connecting to FW main plane and short chord FW elements inboard (but no string wing)

[MrVorticism]

Really big departure from last year. 100% the team to look out for in 2024.

Nah, I don't think so at all. Aerodynamically speaking, they're just a (bad) copy of Red Bull. The biggest innovation is the color of the livery and that says it all.

[kediown]

What does he meann by size? Weight ?

Everything I've heard so far from the Aston Martin side is positive.

AMR24 seems to have met expectations so far.

Moreover, today's vehicle will be updated until the last day of the test. New songs will arrive every day, I don't know their content but I'm following.
There is also news from Sauber side;

The simulator feeling/data matches the on-track data and behavior of the new vehicle.

Everyone agrees that the new car is better than last year, but there are question marks about its size.

Google translate kind of messed up, so let me translate it for you as a native Turkish.
He's talking about this year's car is better than the last year's, but how much better is a question mark.

[Vanja #66]

Nice flow vis photos, full downwash flow present in the rear (unlike early 2023 when it was going in more than going down)