Christian Horner under Investigation

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Venturiation wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:43
mendis wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:12
CMSMJ1 wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:11
Do we need a thread?
It makes sense as the team thread is being stormed by speculations. We don't know if this matter is going to be resolved in days, weeks or months. We have car launch and other stuff coming up in a week. So instead of getting the team thread muddled with everything, let this topic run it's course separately.
according to AMUS friday we have the verdict
Does AMuS report that? I read from them that the relevant parties will be questioned on Friday.. not necessarily verdict on same day

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organic wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:45
Venturiation wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:43
mendis wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 14:12
It makes sense as the team thread is being stormed by speculations. We don't know if this matter is going to be resolved in days, weeks or months. We have car launch and other stuff coming up in a week. So instead of getting the team thread muddled with everything, let this topic run it's course separately.
according to AMUS friday we have the verdict
Does AMuS report that? I read from them that the relevant parties will be questioned on Friday.. not necessarily verdict on same day
No, they didn't. They just said the decision will be made based on what happens on Friday. Fair to assume that it should take a little bit of time. The problem is that the RB20 launch is rapidly approaching. Red Bull never shows their real car so it's purely a sponsor/PR event, heightened by it being the 20th anniversary of the team. So Horner being there while the investigation is still ongoing or Horner *not* being there while it's still ongoing would both be nightmares for Red Bull. I can see them wanting to reach a decision as quickly as possible, but given they hired an outside investigator I'm not sure how much control they have over the timeline.

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Well if this is the "specialist" barrister I`m sure Horner will be sweet...or not :P

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̶v̶a̶n̶ ̶H̶a̶r̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶T̶e̶l̶e̶g̶r̶a̶a̶f̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶s̶a̶y̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶H̶o̶r̶n̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶t̶e̶r̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶l̶a̶w̶y̶e̶r̶ ̶"̶n̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶i̶d̶a̶y̶"̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶e̶k̶?̶?̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶n̶s̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e

*it's this friday

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"Komende vrijdag" means this Friday

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TimW wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 16:12
"Komende vrijdag" means this Friday
Thanks

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Not sure why Red Bull allowed this to go public. It should have been kept quiet till wrong doing was proved, it'll leave a mark, even if he's found innocent.
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Ground Effect wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 16:46
Not sure why Red Bull allowed this to go public. It should have been kept quiet till wrong doing was proved, it'll leave a mark, even if he's found innocent.
Red Bull is about P.R. And this is a good example of damage control.
Red Bull also have their values. Keeping this private and leaking out would hurt the brand more then throwing it in the open. No external media bashing Horner at the moment as happened with the Susie/Toto saga.

Now just see how this turns out. Might as wel speculate some sour grape tried to stir up Red Bull prior to the start of the season......
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Espresso wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 17:01
Ground Effect wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 16:46
Not sure why Red Bull allowed this to go public. It should have been kept quiet till wrong doing was proved, it'll leave a mark, even if he's found innocent.
Red Bull is about P.R. And this is a good example of damage control.
Red Bull also have their values. Keeping this private and leaking out would hurt the brand more then throwing it in the open. No external media bashing Horner at the moment as happened with the Susie/Toto saga.

Now just see how this turns out. Might as wel speculate some sour grape tried to stir up Red Bull prior to the start of the season......
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It is a power control between two of them so at the end one of them will be kicked out.

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organic wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 16:13
TimW wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 16:12
"Komende vrijdag" means this Friday
Thanks
direct translation "coming friday"

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This one is interesting if true.



How about Christian and Adrian quit together, buy stakes in Mercedes that Daimler might want to sell. :lol:

The other alternative is, Ferrari have been looking to snap him for a long time now and this might be their opportunity to snap both!!!

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mendis wrote:
06 Feb 2024, 19:30

The other alternative is, Ferrari have been looking to snap him for a long time now and this might be their opportunity to snap both!!!
Newey often expresses sadness about not having worked for Ferrari and with Lewis Hamilton... time to go for a 2 for 1?
His son is now an adult so there's less issue around moving to Italy than in the past.
Just give him "free reign on the next hypercar" and they can get him.

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If serious allegations have been made, some sort of investigation has to happen, and it really has to be by an impartial 3rd party. Red Bull have made it public, which makes me think its a load of horse manure

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Latest says it involves, "incredibly controlling behavior." What could that possibly mean? Not sexual harassment apparently.