Aston Martin AMR24

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The whole sidepod is being treated as a wing.. incredible

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KimiRai wrote:
12 Feb 2024, 14:42
Indeed the waterslides are somewhat different from the render

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGI1Lq6XsAA ... =4096x4096
I don't see any part lines in the waterslides, if there's none that would be an improvement in itself as they said it was causing some disturbances.

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What an eyecatcher this car is. The letterbox inlets even more extreme than on the RB19. They seem to have put massive work under the skin looking at those sidepods and the undercut.

In my opinion from all the revealed cars this is the one which promises the biggest gains simply because it looks so refined. But as we all know the looks mean even less in the current formula as we can't see the most decisive part of all, the floor.

We'll need to wait for testing at least, but for now this surely seems to be a car to pay attention to.

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Formu1aUno article - https://formu1a.uno/ecco-perche-la-nuov ... -stagione/
The front suspension is similar to that of the AMR23, again of the pushrod type," said technical director Dan Fallows. However, the kinematics have been evolved very aggressively, with the goal of improving its performance along with the front wing and floor. Even more so with this generation of ground effect cars, the mechanicals play a very important role, not only on the management of the single-seater platform, but precisely also as a purely aerodynamic function of the various arms. For this reason, at least four out of ten teams (Red Bull, Racing Bulls, Sauber and Mclaren) have opted to switch to the front pull-rod
Aston Martin therefore thought to evolve the push-rod used on the AMR23, working on the kinematics to find certain aerodynamic advantages and without changing suspension types. The result was a very aggressive suspension, especially in the upper triangle arms. The front one has been raised, with a particular solution in the outer part where the arm connects to the wheel corner, while the rear one has been even more lowered to increase that anti-dive effect, which has now exceeded 100 percent. The aerodynamic effect of the front suspension, the only important element located between the front wing and the central part of a car, is to manage the wake of the front tires as well as to push the flow downward, in the direction of the entrance of the Venturi channels and the upper part of the floor.
The rear suspension has been optimized to maximize the efficiency of the airflow around the rear wing," Aston Martin made known in the statement released during the AMR24 presentation. This is speaking of the outer part of the suspension, mainly the arms, while on the more internal side, the elements of a push-rod suspension can be mounted higher, allowing for a much more aggressive design at the front of the drivetrain. This grants the possibility of less aerodynamic blockage in a crucial area of the single-seater, namely at the mouth of the diffuser, leaving room for new avenues of development and further potential to be extracted from the floor.

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xReVo wrote:
12 Feb 2024, 15:45
KimiRai wrote:
12 Feb 2024, 14:42
Indeed the waterslides are somewhat different from the render

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGI1Lq6XsAA ... =4096x4096
They brought back the old sidepods from amr23, although the water slide is further back. Also as someone mentioned previously, they took the double bottom concept like RB last year but even more extreme
Ironically the AMR22 was one of the first cars with the double bottom concept, but totally different sidepod philosophy.

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shady wrote:
12 Feb 2024, 18:34
The whole sidepod is being treated as a wing.. incredible
Yeah,like a bird:)
https://www.birdguides-cdn.com/cdn/gall ... scale=down

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This was posted by @Luscion in the W15 thread but I think it's important for the AMR24 as well:

Snippet from Formu1aUno article - https://formu1a.uno/ecco-perche-la-nuov ... -stagione/
Mercedes opted to lower the front arm of the upper triangle, thereby increasing the anti-squat to keep the aerodynamic platform of its own car as stable as possible, and consequently those of its customers, such as Aston Martin and Williams. But what stands out quite clearly is the compromise found on the push-rod by the former world champion team. In fact, the push-rod arm is positioned rather horizontally, especially when compared to the competitors' specifications. This is a compromise that tends to favor the aerodynamic effect of the profile over the purely mechanical part, which will be more difficult to control, especially when it comes to shock absorber excursions. However, in the design of any suspension, designers always make important compromises, whether in terms of angles, attachments or positioning of the internal suspension components. For this very reason, the Mercedes rear suspension is the first major new feature of this 2024 F1 season
Dan Fallows said: “We’ve inherited new suspension from Mercedes . . . They give us the gearbox and the structure of the rear suspension, so that has changed slightly from last year as well. So, there’s a change on the rear, but on the front it’s very similar."

I find this language quite interesting. It doesn't sound like he's too happy about the change (but maybe I'm reading too much into it). At what point did Mercedes have to decide on the direction of the rear suspension? I would assume it's fairly early, but how early? And when do they tell AMR? This is a fascinating question to think about, for me, because it has huge aerodynamic implications for the car and a team like AMR has no control over the direction Mercedes will take, so how do you plan accordingly? It seems like a nightmare.

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That's a good looking car, both aesthetic and technically.

Second image down (in above post) shows the right rear wheel under lateral loading, and showing movement towards positive camber, the RB does this too.

The RB setup appears to have less static camber than others generally, this looks to be in that domain and may ultimately present the traction area more flat to the track outside lateral loading to improvement of rear tyre life.

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Sidepod intake body connection is not smooth.
Maybe it is interchangeable according to cooling requirements