2024 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 21 - 23

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KimiRai
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All rumours of gained tenths I've seen so far are (the more doubtful the better :lol: )
Ferrari: 0.5s Nugnes Motorsport Italy
AMR: 0.6s apparently said by Stroll
Mercedes: "over half a second" Nugnes Motorsport Italy, so let's say 0.6s

Nugnes really has no shame whatsoever, he already screwed up that Mercedes was going to retain pullrod and now he apparently has access to the simulator data of several teams. Incredible :lol: :lol:

CaribouBread
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If we're all predicting time improvements, I'll say 1.2 sec improvement for the fastest, 0.5 average improvement across the grid. :D

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KimiRai wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 10:54
All rumours of gained tenths I've seen so far are (the more doubtful the better :lol: )
Ferrari: 0.5s Nugnes Motorsport Italy
AMR: 0.6s apparently said by Stroll
Mercedes: "over half a second" Nugnes Motorsport Italy, so let's say 0.6s

Nugnes really has no shame whatsoever, he already screwed up that Mercedes was going to retain pullrod and now he apparently has access to the simulator data of several teams. Incredible :lol: :lol:
Nugnes never said 0.5s gained IIRC. 0.5s was reported by Formu1a.uno and only related to pure aero improvements. Also we are talking about wind tunnel data.

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Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:34
Nugnes never said 0.5s gained IIRC. 0.5s was reported by Formu1a.uno and only related to pure aero improvements. Also we are talking about wind tunnel data.
KimiRai wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 16:47
Someone who understands Italian please help, I only can understand basic words, but I think Nugnes has said at the end of the video that the expectations are of a performance increase of 5 tenths.
"si parla de una crescita prestazionale di un mezzo secondo"


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KimiRai wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:02
Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:34
Nugnes never said 0.5s gained IIRC. 0.5s was reported by Formu1a.uno and only related to pure aero improvements. Also we are talking about wind tunnel data.
KimiRai wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 16:47
Someone who understands Italian please help, I only can understand basic words, but I think Nugnes has said at the end of the video that the expectations are of a performance increase of 5 tenths.
"si parla de una crescita prestazionale di un mezzo secondo"

I just finished watching this video.
Nugnes said that an ex Journalist, Alessandro Stefanini (which is considered the biggest "Fiorano expert" in the world because he has been there his entire life as a F1 journalist) was at the SF 24 filming day. He was also able to take lap times with his "watch" (Nugnes add that of course he is not 100% precise, but he is quite good and consistent at taking lap times) and the car was performing over 0.5s better than the SF 23 on average (so not related to the fastest lap vs fastest lap of the 2 cars).

Nugnes add that Alessandro told him the SF 23 was garbage last year :D

In any event, as you can see, this is very different from saying the car will be 0.5s quicker.

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Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:06
KimiRai wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:02
Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 12:34
Nugnes never said 0.5s gained IIRC. 0.5s was reported by Formu1a.uno and only related to pure aero improvements. Also we are talking about wind tunnel data.
KimiRai wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 16:47
Someone who understands Italian please help, I only can understand basic words, but I think Nugnes has said at the end of the video that the expectations are of a performance increase of 5 tenths.
"si parla de una crescita prestazionale di un mezzo secondo"

I just finished watching this video.
Nugnes said that an ex Journalist, Alessandro Stefanini (which is considered the biggest "Fiorano expert" in the world because he has been there his entire life as a F1 journalist) was at the SF 24 filming day. He was also able to take lap times with his "watch" (Nugnes add that of course he is not 100% precise, but he is quite good and consistent at taking lap times) and the car was performing around 0.5s better than the SF 23 on average (so not related to the fastest lap vs fastest lap of the 2 cars).

Nugnes add that Alessandro told him the SF 23 was garbage last year :D

In any event, as you can see, this is very different from saying the car will be 0.5s quicker.
Thanks a lot for the explanation, good to know.

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Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:06
I just finished watching this video.
Nugnes said that an ex Journalist, Alessandro Stefanini (which is considered the biggest "Fiorano expert" in the world because he has been there his entire life as a F1 journalist) was at the SF 24 filming day. He was also able to take lap times with his "watch" (Nugnes add that of course he is not 100% precise, but he is quite good and consistent at taking lap times) and the car was performing over 0.5s better than the SF 23 on average (so not related to the fastest lap vs fastest lap of the 2 cars).

Nugnes add that Alessandro told him the SF 23 was garbage last year :D

In any event, as you can see, this is very different from saying the car will be 0.5s quicker.
Hmm. So half a second around Fiorano maybe equates to .75s around a normal length circuit. Let's hope for a bit more than that given that's vs launch spec SF23.

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Does anyone know if NowTV is showing testing or are they reserving that for the Sky subscription?

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Cs98 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:53
Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:06
I just finished watching this video.
Nugnes said that an ex Journalist, Alessandro Stefanini (which is considered the biggest "Fiorano expert" in the world because he has been there his entire life as a F1 journalist) was at the SF 24 filming day. He was also able to take lap times with his "watch" (Nugnes add that of course he is not 100% precise, but he is quite good and consistent at taking lap times) and the car was performing over 0.5s better than the SF 23 on average (so not related to the fastest lap vs fastest lap of the 2 cars).

Nugnes add that Alessandro told him the SF 23 was garbage last year :D

In any event, as you can see, this is very different from saying the car will be 0.5s quicker.
Hmm. So half a second around Fiorano maybe equates to .75s around a normal length circuit. Let's hope for a bit more than that given that's vs launch spec SF23.
Ask and you shall receive: https://www-ss9modena-it.translate.goog ... r_pto=wapp :)

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I predict Alonso win in Bahrain.
You heard it here first.
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 16:49
Cs98 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:53
Xyz22 wrote:
17 Feb 2024, 13:06
I just finished watching this video.
Nugnes said that an ex Journalist, Alessandro Stefanini (which is considered the biggest "Fiorano expert" in the world because he has been there his entire life as a F1 journalist) was at the SF 24 filming day. He was also able to take lap times with his "watch" (Nugnes add that of course he is not 100% precise, but he is quite good and consistent at taking lap times) and the car was performing over 0.5s better than the SF 23 on average (so not related to the fastest lap vs fastest lap of the 2 cars).

Nugnes add that Alessandro told him the SF 23 was garbage last year :D

In any event, as you can see, this is very different from saying the car will be 0.5s quicker.
Hmm. So half a second around Fiorano maybe equates to .75s around a normal length circuit. Let's hope for a bit more than that given that's vs launch spec SF23.
Ask and you shall receive: https://www-ss9modena-it.translate.goog ... r_pto=wapp :)
The latest numbers seem to be 0.8 sec for Leclerc and 1.2 s for Sainz comparing launch spec SF-24 vs launch spec SF-23 at Fiorano.

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GoranF1 wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 20:59
I predict Alonso win in Bahrain.
You heard it here first.
This Just made me remember that last year Bahrain had lot of Alonso Hype train.

Wonder if anyone can create similar hype this year

wickedz50
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vas_04614 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 03:59
GoranF1 wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 20:59
I predict Alonso win in Bahrain.
You heard it here first.
This Just made me remember that last year Bahrain had lot of Alonso Hype train.

Wonder if anyone can create similar hype this year
Hype train even before the 1st day of test is mindblowing! =D>

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wickedz50 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:52
vas_04614 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 03:59
GoranF1 wrote:
18 Feb 2024, 20:59
I predict Alonso win in Bahrain.
You heard it here first.
This Just made me remember that last year Bahrain had lot of Alonso Hype train.

Wonder if anyone can create similar hype this year
Hype train even before the 1st day of test is mindblowing! =D>
Last year rumours of their numbers had been around for weeks before the test already. This year we haven't really got that sort of rumour flying around

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Yeah, this year I wouldn't be shocked if nothing really changes, because every teams finds about the same amount of time, some a bit more, some a bit less.