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[stonehenge]

Can someone explain to me why they’re faster on C1 than C2 and faster on C2 than C3? What would be the reason to do higher fuel loads on softer tires and vice versa?

It's a race sim, fuel load goes down as the race sim goes on, every new tire is faster than the older tire from before plus there's less fuel. To hide their performance they went with harder compounds as the race sim went on instead of the more typical "other way around".

Gotcha, that's interesting. Thanks!

[mendis]

looking good.. who's got redbull times

RedBull didn't do a race sim (nobody did but Merc) and that looks like a race sim. A high 1.35 on last stint is about 1.5-2s slower than where they should be, possibly due to C1 tire that is too slow for a last stint.

C1 was the choice of most drivers for final stint in the race last year in Bahrain.

[dialtone]

RedBull didn't do a race sim (nobody did but Merc) and that looks like a race sim. A high 1.35 on last stint is about 1.5-2s slower than where they should be, possibly due to C1 tire that is too slow for a last stint.

C1 was the choice of most drivers for final stint in the race last year in Bahrain.

Fair enough, well that's a good time on C1 anyway.

[mendis]

RedBull didn't do a race sim (nobody did but Merc) and that looks like a race sim. A high 1.35 on last stint is about 1.5-2s slower than where they should be, possibly due to C1 tire that is too slow for a last stint.

C1 was the choice of most drivers for final stint in the race last year in Bahrain.

Fair enough, well that's a good time on C1 anyway.

This is a stint (last stint of the day) from last year's first day of testing. Lewis on Hards. It was a race simulation of 56 laps (following is the last stint).

1:37.129
1:36.154
1:36.078
1:36.572
1:36.488
1:36.425
1:36.645
1:36.537
1:36.730
1:37.240
1:37.069
1:37.340

[sport777]

In fact, the Merc does not quite reflect its place in the final standings of the first day, since it seems to me that the car was always very heavily fueled, did not use any fuel and behaved quite stably, especially in the evening, the car was planted very low and behaved very stably!

[Luscion]

C1 was the choice of most drivers for final stint in the race last year in Bahrain.

Fair enough, well that's a good time on C1 anyway.

This is a stint (last stint of the day) from last year's first day of testing. Lewis on Hards. It was a race simulation of 56 laps (following is the last stint).

1:37.129
1:36.154
1:36.078
1:36.572
1:36.488
1:36.425
1:36.645
1:36.537
1:36.730
1:37.240
1:37.069
1:37.340

Well Russell seemed to have kept this stint to around 1:36 until the lock up and chequered flag

[f1jcw]

Looks about 0.5 seconds faster

[mendis]

Fair enough, well that's a good time on C1 anyway.

This is a stint (last stint of the day) from last year's first day of testing. Lewis on Hards. It was a race simulation of 56 laps (following is the last stint).

1:37.129
1:36.154
1:36.078
1:36.572
1:36.488
1:36.425
1:36.645
1:36.537
1:36.730
1:37.240
1:37.069
1:37.340

Well Russell seemed to have kept this stint to around 1:36 until the lock up and chequered flag

This is his 3rd stint from race last year, on C1.

41 2:06.293
42 1:37.035
43 1:37.480
44 1:37.597
45 1:37.316
46 1:37.571
47 1:37.432
48 1:37.520
49 1:37.718
50 1:37.383
51 1:37.825
52 1:37.589
53 1:37.841
54 1:37.923
55 1:37.860
56 1:37.636
57 1:37.767

[sport777]

in fact, faster than 0.5 you need to look at the average time and it’s about 1 second

[Henri]

This is a stint (last stint of the day) from last year's first day of testing. Lewis on Hards. It was a race simulation of 56 laps (following is the last stint).

1:37.129
1:36.154
1:36.078
1:36.572
1:36.488
1:36.425
1:36.645
1:36.537
1:36.730
1:37.240
1:37.069
1:37.340

Well Russell seemed to have kept this stint to around 1:36 until the lock up and chequered flag

This is his 3rd stint from race last year, on C1.

41 2:06.293
42 1:37.035
43 1:37.480
44 1:37.597
45 1:37.316
46 1:37.571
47 1:37.432
48 1:37.520
49 1:37.718
50 1:37.383
51 1:37.825
52 1:37.589
53 1:37.841
54 1:37.923
55 1:37.860
56 1:37.636
57 1:37.767

Have you got last year rb19 times last stint ?..

[mendis]

Have you got last year rb19 times last stint ?..

Yes. This is from race (Max). 3rd stint on C1. A bit misleading as he was comfortably ahead and managing the race. Not exactly racing.

36 P 1:40.964
37 1:58.490
38 1:36.297
39 1:36.446
40 1:36.942
41 2:00.495
42 1:44.824
43 1:36.890
44 1:36.236
45 1:37.015
46 1:36.701
47 1:37.009
48 1:36.918
49 1:36.962
50 1:37.250
51 1:37.427
52 1:36.919
53 1:36.890
54 1:36.678
55 1:36.322
56 1:37.205
57 1:36.373

[Luscion]

[cplchanb]

Judging from what we've seen so far, is there hope?

Hope at what? WDC? No hope
Hope to beat Macca/Farrari? Likely no.

I know you can go onboard and see the car looks stable now, but when you consider how slow the car is going relative to the Macca and RB its no surprise the car looks stable.

When pushed it is a clear mess, and when you look at the mini sectors of the fastest laps for NOR and VER you can very clearly see they are no where near pushing it, so by rights Merc are nowhere near pushing it but still showing signs of poor drivability, just the same as the last 2 years.

It does not look good at all.

Bang on, unfortunately

To expect Allison to come in from the cold, and cook up an entirely new concept, and be on the money, was always a long shot.

Think Merc go backwards this year, given McL won’t be starting from the back this year. Third or fourth in the WCC, most likely the best outcome this year.

The team ballsed up this regulation. End of.

im going to save this post until the end of the year. lets see who will eat their socks.

[Luscion]

Russell seems pretty happy here

[cirrusflyer]

Hope at what? WDC? No hope
Hope to beat Macca/Farrari? Likely no.

I know you can go onboard and see the car looks stable now, but when you consider how slow the car is going relative to the Macca and RB its no surprise the car looks stable.

When pushed it is a clear mess, and when you look at the mini sectors of the fastest laps for NOR and VER you can very clearly see they are no where near pushing it, so by rights Merc are nowhere near pushing it but still showing signs of poor drivability, just the same as the last 2 years.

It does not look good at all.

Bang on, unfortunately

To expect Allison to come in from the cold, and cook up an entirely new concept, and be on the money, was always a long shot.

Think Merc go backwards this year, given McL won’t be starting from the back this year. Third or fourth in the WCC, most likely the best outcome this year.

The team ballsed up this regulation. End of.

im going to save this post until the end of the year. lets see who will eat their socks.

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I find these data interesting.
Less time on full throtle, more time on brakes, wider lines throught corners, less time accelerating.
Would sugest more lift and coast, lower engine settings...
Not that bad!
What do you think?