If only Alonso drove in the evening
Thanks for the update; thats what is important at this stage.Egresi Tamás wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 20:52@lawrobarreto
Aston Martin, RB and Ferrari look intriguing
There have been high hopes inside Aston Martin that the team have delivered a good follow-up to their 2023 car that secured eight podiums – and based on Fernando Alonso’s superb run in the morning and an encouraging performance from Lance Stroll later in the afternoon, they may well be onto something.
It's believed the numbers correlated to those running off the wind tunnel and CFD (computation fluid dynamics simulations). Yes, it’s fair to say that the team haven’t pushed the car yet – but to have the AMR24 do everything they expected it to on a very smooth opening day… well, it’s no wonder they’re pretty happy
Should have mentioned it earlier but apparently williams has stuck with the older suspension due to "logistical and cost reasons" so not really performance related.Alo_Fan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:44I wonder if the Merc rear suspension isn't very good, I remember Fallows giving a comment at launch about being forced to use it and Williams interesting opted to use last years suspension over the new Merc one. The Merc and Aston rear end is very similar in parts, and both teams haven't looked great yet.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... ing-debut/The Aston Martin in Fernando Alonso's hands looked quite responsive once in the corner and was probably all-round the best-balanced car, but even then there was a little understeer at entry. That understeer increased with what appeared to be set-up changes mid-morning.
Thanks for clarifying, I didn't realise that. I heard Vowles mention they went for a radical approach so I assumed that was maybe went he was talking about.KimiRai wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 22:45Should have mentioned it earlier but apparently williams has stuck with the older suspension due to "logistical and cost reasons" so not really performance related.Alo_Fan wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:44I wonder if the Merc rear suspension isn't very good, I remember Fallows giving a comment at launch about being forced to use it and Williams interesting opted to use last years suspension over the new Merc one. The Merc and Aston rear end is very similar in parts, and both teams haven't looked great yet.
Its a bit weird, this is all I could gather from this website
So in one hand he says they had to take old components but on the other he implies some kind of innovationJames Vowles has confirmed that the FW46 will use the 2023 Mercedes gearbox and casing. Apparently he said it at the season launch earlier this month, but it wasn't released.
Doesn't sound like it was purely an engineering-led decision:
"For Mercedes, having to supply two customer teams will all-new gearbox and rear suspension layouts would have been an extreme logistical challenge."
I'm curious about what those interesting things Vowles mentions are:
“In terms of the rear suspension, there's bits that we're happy to talk about, but I'm going to save it for Bahrain, because there's some interesting things to talk about where we've gone on rear suspension.”
xReVo wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 00:04You can rest assured that Mercedes won't have a worse rear suspension or gearbox than Williams , so Vowles' opinion matters little. Speaking of the rest, in my opinion it is useless to believe that Redbull is ahead by 1 second or 3 tenths. Regardless of the fact that 1 second would be exaggerated considering that the other teams have also improved. Aston Martin worked well today, lap times count for practically nothing considering that Verstappen did his best lap in the afternoon in 1.31.3 when last year's pole was 1.29.7 in the same conditions . All the teams are hiding from their real performance and are only doing correlation work with the data. If it is confirmed that Aston has data that matches that of the wind tunnel, this is a great thing. We'll see tomorrow, don't lose faith, in my opinion there will be positive things from Aston Martin in terms of performance
I very much agree with both.Egresi Tamás wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 20:52@lawrobarreto
Aston Martin, RB and Ferrari look intriguing
There have been high hopes inside Aston Martin that the team have delivered a good follow-up to their 2023 car that secured eight podiums – and based on Fernando Alonso’s superb run in the morning and an encouraging performance from Lance Stroll later in the afternoon, they may well be onto something.
It's believed the numbers correlated to those running off the wind tunnel and CFD (computation fluid dynamics simulations). Yes, it’s fair to say that the team haven’t pushed the car yet – but to have the AMR24 do everything they expected it to on a very smooth opening day… well, it’s no wonder they’re pretty happy
If you look at Piastri, last year, he was never more than 2 tenth off Norris's pace. So if Piastri would have run the afternoon, he would have had numbers similar to Norris. If Alonso would have run in the afternoon, he would have been right there.GoranF1 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 20:42Problem whit this team (also Redbull) you have one driver that overperformes and one underperformes so it's difficult to say where they are. Alonso can be anywhere for 1 tenth to 1 sec faster than Stroll per lap.
It's almost good in these testing situations to have two mediocore drives like Ferrari and Mercedes.
If you look at Piastri, last year, he was never more than 2 tenth off Norris's pace. So if Piastri would have run the afternoon, he would have had numbers similar to Norris. If Alonso would have run in the afternoon, he would have been right there.GoranF1 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 20:42Problem whit this team (also Redbull) you have one driver that overperformes and one underperformes so it's difficult to say where they are. Alonso can be anywhere for 1 tenth to 1 sec faster than Stroll per lap.
It's almost good in these testing situations to have two mediocore drives like Ferrari and Mercedes.