2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

Bang on, unfortunately

To expect Allison to come in from the cold, and cook up an entirely new concept, and be on the money, was always a long shot.

Think Merc go backwards this year, given McL won’t be starting from the back this year. Third or fourth in the WCC, most likely the best outcome this year.

The team ballsed up this regulation. End of.

im going to save this post until the end of the year. lets see who will eat their socks.

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I find these data interesting.
Less time on full throtle, more time on brakes, wider lines throught corners, less time accelerating.
Would sugest more lift and coast, lower engine settings...
Not that bad!
What do you think?

It suggest heavy fuel loads to me. Heavy car has longer stopping distance and waiting a bit longer to get back on the throttle. Zero chance that Vcarb overhauled Mercedes as a literal interpretation of the picture would have you believe.

[CHT]

Hope at what? WDC? No hope
Hope to beat Macca/Farrari? Likely no.

I know you can go onboard and see the car looks stable now, but when you consider how slow the car is going relative to the Macca and RB its no surprise the car looks stable.

When pushed it is a clear mess, and when you look at the mini sectors of the fastest laps for NOR and VER you can very clearly see they are no where near pushing it, so by rights Merc are nowhere near pushing it but still showing signs of poor drivability, just the same as the last 2 years.

It does not look good at all.

Bang on, unfortunately

To expect Allison to come in from the cold, and cook up an entirely new concept, and be on the money, was always a long shot.

Think Merc go backwards this year, given McL won’t be starting from the back this year. Third or fourth in the WCC, most likely the best outcome this year.

The team ballsed up this regulation. End of.

im going to save this post until the end of the year. lets see who will eat their socks.

Considering Merc is introducing a new design concept and chassis, there will be plenty of data and information for the team to digest. So their test objective will be very different.

The Merc are unlikely they be able to challenge RBR or the other big teams in the first part of the season, but very likely they will be the most improved team of the year. Just like McLaren in 2023.

[FW17]

I think the car is quiet good. The 1st and 2nd stint was comparable to the race winner last year and the 3rd one was way faster. Couple of seconds on each lap (15 sec in total) is no joke.

And this is done on first day of testing, massively impressive.

[zibby43]

I think the car is quiet good. The 1st and 2nd stint was comparable to the race winner last year and the 3rd one was way faster. Couple of seconds on each lap (15 sec in total) is no joke.

And this is done on first day of testing, massively impressive.
https://i.imgur.com/jWHchiO.jpeg

That's an interesting comparo. Thanks for posting.

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https://www.racefans.net/2024/02/22/mer ... -hamilton/

Hamilton's frustration early 2022:

“I remember complaining to the team and being like, look, we have to make these changes, otherwise this is the trajectory we’re going to go on and this is where we’re going to end up,” he told the programme makers. “Please, please do something about it.

“I remember they said, like, we know what we’re doing, you’re wrong. And that was definitely an interesting moment. I was like, okay, I’ll step back, don’t want to step on anybody’s toes. Then when we got into the season, then we spoke again [they said] ‘oh, maybe you were right.”

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[Watto]

Looking a bit of a handful with Hamilton when he pushes

[F1Krof]

Yep, car's a dog again. Same as last year, lazy on the front, then snap oversteer on the way out.

[Matt2725]

Yep, car's a dog again. Same as last year, lazy on the front, then snap oversteer on the way out.

George is happy with it...

[DGP123]

Yep, car's a dog again. Same as last year, lazy on the front, then snap oversteer on the way out.

George is happy with it...

George doesn’t know what a fast, championship contending car feels like. He’s only ever driven dogs.

Unfortunately, I only see Mercedes going backwards this year.

[Xyz22]

Yep, car's a dog again. Same as last year, lazy on the front, then snap oversteer on the way out.

George is happy with it...

George doesn’t know what a fast, championship contending car feels like. He’s only ever driven dogs.

Technically he drove the W11 one weekend

[j_ste]

Yep, car's a dog again. Same as last year, lazy on the front, then snap oversteer on the way out.

George is happy with it...

Good for him...doesnt change that it looks difficult.

Three cars look alive. Mercedes isnt one of them...edit, that lap was much better

[Luscion]

Onboard of the car looked stable in Lewis' last push lap, same as Russell yesterday, a handful to drive at the beginning and stable towards the end of the session, I would assume it's because they're doing a whole bunch of tests and configurations throughout the day as Merc have said theyre just focused on learning

[Matt2725]

You'd be forgiven for thinking a lot of people are trying to will Mercedes falling even further back into the field.

[Quantum]

Onboard of the car looked stable in Lewis' last push lap, same as Russell yesterday, a handful to drive at the beginning and stable towards the end of the session, I would assume it's because they're doing a whole bunch of tests and configurations throughout the day as Merc have said theyre just focused on learning

Davidson on Sky "It looks far more stable. Even on heavy fuel it looks a completely different car.
Turns in quicker and rear remains stable"

You'd be forgiven for thinking a lot of people are trying to will Mercedes falling even further back into the field.

So true.