2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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I presume Red Bull haven’t done a sim? Ie neither driver?

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f1316 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:05
I presume Red Bull haven’t done a sim? Ie neither driver?
Checo did, earlier in the day, 2s/lap slower more or less so unreliable.

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Yeah, 0.3s in race trim would not be amazing obviously, but it means that Charles and Carlos would at least be able to make Checo's life miserable (not that he needs outside help :lol:).

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:07
Yeah, 0.3s in race trim would not be amazing obviously, but it means that Charles and Carlos would at least be able to make Checo's life miserable (not that he needs outside help :lol:).
0.3s is at least something you can fix with some creative catering expenses.

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dialtone wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:09
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:07
Yeah, 0.3s in race trim would not be amazing obviously, but it means that Charles and Carlos would at least be able to make Checo's life miserable (not that he needs outside help :lol:).
0.3s is at least something you can fix with some creative catering expenses.
Given how basic our sidepods are compared to the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if there were at least a few tenths you can gain by sculpting them.

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Car looked much settled today. Though the car still seems jumpy(not porpoising) when riding over bumps. Both Red Bull & RB(even Riccardo) seems very smooth. Is that a function of suspension choice ?

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jambuka wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:15
Car looked much settled today. Though the car still seems jumpy(not porpoising) when riding over bumps. Both Red Bull & RB(even Riccardo) seems very smooth. Is that a function of suspension choice ?
Think a function of RB running stiffer and lower compared to Ferrari who run softer

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organic wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:17
jambuka wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:15
Car looked much settled today. Though the car still seems jumpy(not porpoising) when riding over bumps. Both Red Bull & RB(even Riccardo) seems very smooth. Is that a function of suspension choice ?
Think a function of RB running stiffer and lower compared to Ferrari who run softer
True, though is that a side effect of difference in suspension layouts ? What's preventing SF-24 from doing that ?

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In the last sector the car looks absolutely fantastic. Tremendous amount of rotation compared to the SF 23 :D

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In 2023, the Red Bull was significantly faster in the slow sections, while the Ferrari was sometimes slightly faster in the very fast sections:

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This year, the picture is different. Ferrari has rediscovered its strength from 2022 in the slower sections and is generally better here than Red Bull, who seem to be slightly better in faster areas. In general, however, it looks much better than in 2023.

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Andi76 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:29
In 2023, the Red Bull was significantly faster in the slow sections, while the Ferrari was sometimes slightly faster in the very fast sections:

https://postimg.cc/Jt9YPt5s

This year, the picture is different. Ferrari has rediscovered its strength from 2022 in the slower sections and is generally better here than Red Bull, who seem to be slightly better in faster areas. In general, however, it looks much better than in 2023.

https://postimg.cc/K14Nb2N6

This compares a C4 tyre on day 2 to Max's C3 on day 1. I don't think that's a great comparison, especially looking at low speed where mechanical grip is key especially with the low grid surface at bahrain.

Tomorrow we should get Leclerc and Max on track at the same time hopefully running the same compounds

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Andi76 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:29
In 2023, the Red Bull was significantly faster in the slow sections, while the Ferrari was sometimes slightly faster in the very fast sections:

https://postimg.cc/Jt9YPt5s

This year, the picture is different. Ferrari has rediscovered its strength from 2022 in the slower sections and is generally better here than Red Bull, who seem to be slightly better in faster areas. In general, however, it looks much better than in 2023.

https://postimg.cc/K14Nb2N6
I'll add that we don't know how much power the teams are using.
Think that RB put a bit of his spell in Maranello :wink:

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organic wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:31
Andi76 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:29
In 2023, the Red Bull was significantly faster in the slow sections, while the Ferrari was sometimes slightly faster in the very fast sections:

https://postimg.cc/Jt9YPt5s

This year, the picture is different. Ferrari has rediscovered its strength from 2022 in the slower sections and is generally better here than Red Bull, who seem to be slightly better in faster areas. In general, however, it looks much better than in 2023.

https://postimg.cc/K14Nb2N6

This compares a C4 tyre on day 2 to Max's C3 on day 1. I don't think that's a great comparison, especially looking at low speed where mechanical grip is key especially with the low grid surface at bahrain.

Tomorrow we should get Leclerc and Max on track at the same time hopefully running the same compounds
Does it? Sainz's lap is slower than Max's on that trace? I think it is comparing the first C3 run of Sainz to Max's.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:42
organic wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:31
Andi76 wrote:
22 Feb 2024, 21:29
In 2023, the Red Bull was significantly faster in the slow sections, while the Ferrari was sometimes slightly faster in the very fast sections:

https://postimg.cc/Jt9YPt5s

This year, the picture is different. Ferrari has rediscovered its strength from 2022 in the slower sections and is generally better here than Red Bull, who seem to be slightly better in faster areas. In general, however, it looks much better than in 2023.

https://postimg.cc/K14Nb2N6

This compares a C4 tyre on day 2 to Max's C3 on day 1. I don't think that's a great comparison, especially looking at low speed where mechanical grip is key especially with the low grid surface at bahrain.

Tomorrow we should get Leclerc and Max on track at the same time hopefully running the same compounds
Does it? Sainz's lap is slower than Max's on that trace? I think it is comparing the first C3 run of Sainz to Max's.
Sainz's only 1.32.5 lap was Day 1 of practice, lap 23 on 2 lap old mediums.

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I think this is the lap, actually Max's lap is about 2 hours later than SAI, so temperature wise very comfortable for that Medium, so if anything Max was in better condition there.