McLaren MCL38

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f1rules wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 12:27
thats all nice, but what about the weak frontend, would be nice to hear him mention that, since many mentioned during testing, it understeers like crazy

But i quess they dont need to worry about that as they are in the garage with ANOTHER issue :roll:
I don’t think you can just isolate it like that. If you don’t have the grip/df on the rear axle then you HAVE to balance it with the appropriate df level of the front wing. Potentially they’ve solved front issues with the altered suspension layout too.

If I had to hazard a guess, Cl / Cd (lift over drag or in F1 terms df / d) is the one area the RB20 excels in. Think most teams can easily match them on load but that’s where we are losing out big time on the RB

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Wow..they have used all the flow vis on Oscar's car 😄😄

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Does anyone know if this is still wet at this point? I’m no aero expert but it looks really strange to me towards the rear of the sidepod. The flow vis lines curve and then go straight down without an obvious downwashing element. Could this be aided by a combination of suction at the mouse hole and the vortex generated at the mid-wing?

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Our Rear Wing angles inwards quite a bit...

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The air seems to make quite a bend down on the back end of the sidepod. Not sure if that is totally desireable. Slow speed performance in the technical S2 section seems pretty good! So possibly suspension kinematics working better this year

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De Wet wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 15:31
https://i.ibb.co/VW2ycfM/GHAm-Ipc-XQAAnk3-I.jpg


Our Rear Wing angles inwards quite a bit...
It may do a bit more than other teams but if you look carefully you’ll notice that the picture is taken from a wider angle looking slightly in meaning any wing endplate angle that is there looks more pronounced

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Anyone clear floviz pic that highlights sidepod wing vortex?

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De Wet wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 15:31
https://i.ibb.co/VW2ycfM/GHAm-Ipc-XQAAnk3-I.jpg


Our Rear Wing angles inwards quite a bit...
Is there a reason ours and Mercedes rear wings are a bit thicker on the two side edges, especially in comparison to Red Bull?

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Posts talking about gained tenths or pace comparisons have been deleted or will be shortly. The posters got (get) the text back, you are welcome to post them in the team thread or, perhaps better, the race threads.
As usual every year at this time:
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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 15:39
The air seems to make quite a bend down on the back end of the sidepod. Not sure if that is totally desireable. Slow speed performance in the technical S2 section seems pretty good! So possibly suspension kinematics working better this year
I remember that he was driving very slow, which is not normal during flow-vis test.

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wiktor977 wrote:
25 Feb 2024, 20:14
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 15:39
The air seems to make quite a bend down on the back end of the sidepod. Not sure if that is totally desireable. Slow speed performance in the technical S2 section seems pretty good! So possibly suspension kinematics working better this year
I remember that he was driving very slow, which is not normal during flow-vis test.
It was definitely intentional. He did a whole lap on the pitspeed limiter (100kph). It makes sense to me, the flow of air changes as speed increases. If you want to verify what is happening at low speed, you do a low speed flow-viz run.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
26 Feb 2024, 08:48
wiktor977 wrote:
25 Feb 2024, 20:14
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 15:39


The air seems to make quite a bend down on the back end of the sidepod. Not sure if that is totally desireable. Slow speed performance in the technical S2 section seems pretty good! So possibly suspension kinematics working better this year
I remember that he was driving very slow, which is not normal during flow-vis test.
It was definitely intentional. He did a whole lap on the pitspeed limiter (100kph). It makes sense to me, the flow of air changes as speed increases. If you want to verify what is happening at low speed, you do a low speed flow-viz run.
wasnt that clutch problems related, that he did the whole lap in 2nd gear?